About This Batch Of Prime Items...

[Shehriazad]

I realize that not everyone is done farming their stuff yet, and that obviously is to be expected!
But with no other Prime access bundled release have I ever seen so many people with new stuff AS FAST as it is now.

Of course I am more of an extreme case, having everything together within 1 single day...and a few super unlucky cases might take 1-2 weeks to get all they want...but for a couple of reasons patch 13.7 and 13.7.1 are a great band-aid that easily surpasses anything they had in place before.

Our feedback on 13.7 helped to have them rush it into the right direction with 13.7.1 and I think it's about time we realized that this is a great direction for Primes until something more than a fast bandaid can be developed.


So yea, Thank you DE for fixing it up nicely, and here are the reasons why I like everything about this:

- Even trash drops are now bundled up in values that don't make you cry in agony. 5r5 Cores is actually a nice reward. (Of course a few super high end Veterans won't have use for them now, but new mods are added regularly and plat is always to be made with fully ranked mods)

- You now know when to expect your loot and you can plan accordingly. You don't have to try and force yourself to stay 100+ minutes/rounds to get your item. You will have a smaller amount of chances, but the chance value itself is higher than before.

- Getting the T4 key you want is far easier than getting the T1-T3 key you want. After all T4 has been split amongst 2 different level areas, thus your chances are greatly increased.

- Eximus units and UberVor give further incentive (although Vors drops are only interesting for so long.) The huge amount of Eximus units greatly increases your gained affinity...and people that like to scan things, certainly get to blast through hundreds of scanners once again.



So yea... I like it..and although it is not perfect, if DE keeps on going into this direction, I will be happy with it.

Edited June 15, 2014 by Shehriazad

[SableSonata]

Please don't encourage them. Since I started playing, this was the least player-friendly update. More grind, more RNG, more void dilution. They added T4 and still managed to make the drop tables even more diluted. To get specific items in defense or survival, you now have at most, half as many chances, and each chance is, at best, no larger than before.

 

You have to grind in one of the worst game modes for a chance at a chance at a chance at a chance to get the prime part you need. It's not fun, and sadly DE has bullied enough people into buying prime access that they're unlikely to change their ways.

[RoboDoge]

Only bad thing about this update was T4 keys grind. Interceptions are horrible missions and shouldnt have made us grind them for keys ( at least not for 3 waves till we might have a chance of key spawn ).

[Shehriazad]

Please don't encourage them. Since I started playing, this was the least player-friendly update. More grind, more RNG, more void dilution. They added T4 and still managed to make the drop tables even more diluted. To get specific items in defense or survival, you now have at most, half as many chances, and each chance is, at best, no larger than before.

 

You have to grind in one of the worst game modes for a chance at a chance at a chance at a chance to get the prime part you need. It's not fun, and sadly DE has bullied enough people into buying prime access that they're unlikely to change their ways.

13.7 was diluted but 13.7.1 certainly made it better than it was before this prime access.

And that you have to RNG keys is nothing new...but the T4 keys are easier to get than the T3 keys. 

T4 you can get 1 of 3 

T3 you can get 1 of 5 or an unwanted T2 key. So your real chance is 1 of 10 if you want a certain key.

Pre patch you had this 1% or so chance to get your Rhino piece per reward, post patch it's like 10% to get your rare survival Loki piece on a set interval.

I see a lot of hate toward this patch...and even more of that hate seems to be stuck on 13.7 and does not take the hotfixes into account.

Edited June 15, 2014 by Shehriazad

[SableSonata]

Drop rates for prime parts are supposed to be equal. Any perception of rarity is based on luck. Since they didn't reduce the number of parts available in most drop tables, there has been no actual change in drop rates for individual parts. 

 

However, fusion cores do appear to be more frequent drops, at least in survival and defense, leading to lower overall chances for primes.

Edited June 15, 2014 by SableSonata

[Katinka]

Finally someone else has said they have had good luck getting parts!

 

I was beginning to think I must be the luckiest player here as everyone appears to have run 50+ missions for no reward while I have all bar 2 of the new Prime parts and each of the ones I have took 5 or less runs.  I've even picked up a few spare parts for old Primes that clan-mates still needed or could be sold.

 

Seriously, Interception is not that bad a mission to run.  Not all that different to Survival or Defense except it is less frantic than Survival and less repetitive than Defense.  Dilution of drops looks to me to have improved.  They have added 11 new parts (one of which you need twice) but 6 new missions.  Definitely more spaces for loot added than taken by this update.  We now know at what stages in endless missions we can get different items meaning we can plan our hunt better.

[-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS-]

I've had 100% drop chances farming these parts in Trade Chat. It's truly amazing how quickly I've put together these new primes.

Oh yes... My happiness is built on the blood, sweat and tears of other Tenno. My many hours spent on learning the dark arts of Greedy Milk have finally paid off...

Great work DE! XD

Edited June 16, 2014 by sushidubya

[OniDax]

I wasn't bullied into buying Prime Access...

[SableSonata]

 They have added 11 new parts (one of which you need twice) but 6 new missions.  Definitely more spaces for loot added than taken by this update.  We now know at what stages in endless missions we can get different items meaning we can plan our hunt better.

Except that they didn't really move any parts; they just copied them. They added 6 new missions, and copied enough old parts to fill up the drop tables with duplicates so that each mission is just as diluted as before.

 

And we may know when it's better to cut our losses, but only because we now have only 50-25% as many opportunities to get each part. Before, we didn't need to plan our hunt because every reward had a chance to be what we needed. Now it's only every third or fourth wave instead.

[RoboDoge]

I've had 100% drop chances farming these parts in Trade Chat. It's truly amazing how quickly I've put together these new primes.

Oh yes... My happiness is built on the blood, sweat and tears of other Tenno. My many hours spent on learning the dark arts of Greedy Milk have finally paid off...

Great work DE! XD

I spent overall 32 Plat and i have new Primes. Beat that if you can :)

[qazxedcv1]

I spent overall 32 Plat and i have new Primes. Beat that if you can :)

I gained 20 plat. Your move.

[AnOldAlias]

I gained 20 plat. Your move.

I got all of my prime stuff for free from a friend without spending a dime :E

[RoboDoge]

I gained 20 plat. Your move.

Bought Bo Prime Handle for 12 Plat. Your move.

[-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS-]

I spent overall 32 Plat and i have new Primes. Beat that if you can :)

Lol I just traded parts over and pver again. Got all primes for free and gained closed to 200p. XD

All I had to do was be patient and build Loki Prime 2 days later. Sold the chassis and systems for 450p on day one.