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there s absolutely, positively no reason to use literally any of them, as long as you have two brain cells, slide attacking wiil always come out on top, why would you even bother trying to do a single combo when a slide attack does literally 3x damage of a regular swing on most weapons, for both pve and pvp, you could train all day with bo or a sword and still insta loose to guard bypassing spin attacks, love slash dash? too bad, dual ichor or kamas can pretty much out preform you, 

 

on another note, why even bother with limiting warframes run speed when a vaobon with zorrens can outpace a loki by breaking the sound barrier and simultaneously splitting the planet in half with absurd amounts of damage and range, honestly you might as well make every frame the same speed with how much spin spam is encouraged, if you aint spinning, youre losing

Edited by Feffog
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Because as soon as you don't one shot enemies, slide attack DPS falls off a cliff like anything that's frontloaded and it provides no CC.

 

You also lose power when channeling based on enemies hit, not number of hits, so slide attacking into a group of light enemies you didn't need to channel just to channel vs a heavy will crush your power on a channel build. You need to kill them separately with a combo and channel the hits against the heavy alone.

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Mod points.

 

I fail to understand the second "paragraph". A Loki can out-copter a Vauban

 

Edit: Dual Zoren + "Absurd" Range in the same sentence?

Edited by OptimumBow0
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there s absolutely, positively no reason to use literally any of them

When trying to make a point it is generally a good idea to not start out with a blatant lie there is a reason to use them those 10 extra mod points are quite handy.

 

doesnt crimson devrish do like 3x damage multiplier on the first three strikes of a combo

Also this.

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i use Stalking Fan, the 1st attack is fast + have a good range, it almost replace the slide attack. the Dying Light attack so badass, it not just make me cool, it will either kill any enemies or gimme 5+ combo point (which is x1,5 or 2 attack), oh and i did meet alot of PvP use Slide attack and what do i do ? I use Jump attack + Finish attack.

 

Oh and another thing, i totally agree with you about the stamina thing, but people do asking to "hey DE please make sheet harder then necessary so we can complain in the future". So...yeh...i dunno who to blame anymore.

 

conclusion: Running is way more fun then Spinning, because game-enjoy reason :>

Edited by Doforcash
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You are correct. There is no reason to use a stance.

If you don't have one for the weapon in question.

If you DO have one, definitely use it, if only for the extra mod points.

Also, your main point was that slide attack is better on all weapons than that weapon's combos. Have you ever tried slide attacking with the kogake? You can't hit a darned thing!

Edited by Imaru12
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Remember, they aren't called Slide Attacks anymore... Every Stance has it's own name for the thing.

 

You want to keep calling them Slide Attack?... Tough luck, Steve spent a lot of time thinking those silly ultimately pointless names up for the same spinning attack. When he could have saved the trouble, not naming 32 different slide attacks and instead thinking of ways of making us hold the Melee with A GODDAMN STANCE instead of just holding the weapon like a damn Nerd!

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zorrens

 

You lost me. Dual Zoren is no longer the copter king. If you're using your melee weapon as a speed tool, you better be using the Amphis. If not, you're doing it wrong. Also, Volt (speed) and Valkyr (Warcry) are faster than your vauban with DZ. Git Gud.

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If I ain't spinning, I'm losing?

 

Warning: Coptering Elitist approaching.

 

Try taking your slide attacks to high wave defence. Those level 80s won't give a rat's &#!.

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+1 OP

 

buff run/sprint speed by 50% and reduce stamina drain and/or give frames increased stamina by 50%

 

at least make it seem like sprinting vs coptering could be a viable mechanic, even though it obviously isnt =[

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I may be REALLY new to warframe like 2 - 3 weeks but someone correct me if im wrong but dont stance mods give you mod points that to my knowledge are rather valuble?

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I may be REALLY new to warframe like 2 - 3 weeks but someone correct me if im wrong but dont stance mods give you mod points that to my knowledge are rather valuble?

See OP? Even a new guy knows more than you.

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Extra Mod slots = Bonus

 

Increased damage/combat effects for combos = Bonus

 

I just wish I could pull of the combo button mashing to actually make use of most of them.  =/

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Mod points.

 

I fail to understand the second "paragraph". A Loki can out-copter a Vauban

 

Edit: Dual Zoren + "Absurd" Range in the same sentence?

 

Put reach on those Zorens. It can get a little ridiculous, I've broken glass windows just by coptering down a hallway when I was against the wall just across from the window.

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