Lotus-Class Frame

[pyr0_storm]

Suggested Abilities:

 

*Clairvoyance - As opposed to the Lotus herself warning Tenno of enemies approaching, the Lotus Warframe casts Clairvoyance and - along with allies - can see targets approaching on the Minimap (much like Enemy Radar or Sonar) as well as thru the walls as a faint outline. 

 

*Petal Bomb - Lotus deploys several petal shaped bombs (think Senbonzakura from BLEACH) that fly away in all directions from Lotus and explode on contact with enemies. These petals deal gas (or perhaps toxic) damage (since some versions of lotus plants are toxic)

 

*Cryostasis - Lotus can help preserve a downed ally by using this ability to significantly increase the bleedout time, giving allies more time to revive the fallen Tenno. This ability works like Vauban's abilities; Lotus throws a small sphere to deploy a temporary - not permanent - stasis pod to preserve the Tenno. Lotus could potentially use this on herself if she throws it straight up the moment before she goes down.  While the Tenno is enclosed he/she can not attack or use gear. Much like the pods we defend on the regular this pod can be destroyed if it takes too much damage but will not normally draw enemies' aggro. We wake Tenno from cryopods on her orders after all, why can't she help put one back in for a minute?

 

*Consumption(?) - Much like the tree of myth, Lotus throws orbs that - once they come in contact with enemies - reduce their aggression and damage output. Enemies under the effects of this move become confused for a moment and have reduced damage as well as reduced awareness of Tenno presence...until it's too late.

 

Now I don't have any artwork since I can't draw to save my life, but if someone wanted to come up with something for me I would be grateful; my idea is essentially that the Lotus Warframe looks an awful lot like the Lotus herself but perhaps a tiny but more floral.

[Prod_Crewman]

im sorry but thats not a good idea

[pyr0_storm]

im sorry but thats not a good idea

Can you be a bit more descriptive on why you think this is not a good idea? This could be a very useful set of skills come long defense or survival missions or so went my reasoning. I'm open to feedback but just telling me it's not a good idea isn't helpful much I'm afraid.

[Prod_Crewman]

Can you be a bit more descriptive on why you think this is not a good idea? This could be a very useful set of skills come long defense or survival missions or so went my reasoning. I'm open to feedback but just telling me it's not a good idea isn't helpful much I'm afraid.

how would lotus look if she was attacking/walking/wallrunning/crouching/running

 

 

and if the player would play as lotus, he feel the joy of cutting a grineer into 2 pieces, he would be flying

[pyr0_storm]

how would lotus look if she was attacking/walking/wallrunning/crouching/running

Well...I mean...I imagine it would look like any other Warframe attacking/wallrunning/crouching/running.....

 

and if the player would play as lotus, he feel the joy of cutting a grineer into 2 pieces, he would be flying

I didn't say as Lotus, I said Lotus-class. Meaning like Lotus. Maybe she designed it. Who knows? It's stated on the wiki here that she created the Dex Furis, why not a Frame too? And tbh not sure what the rest of your reply is supposed to mean.

Edited June 16, 2014 by pyr0_storm

[MerelyARumor]

we will call it...dex lotus

[pyr0_storm]

we will call it...dex lotus

Haha. Yus. Dex Lotus. Love it.

Comes with complementary Dex Braton and Dex Skana

Edited June 16, 2014 by pyr0_storm

[pyr0_storm]

Still looking for some feedback...please keep it coming. Also, still would like to know why earlier poster(s?) thought this was a bad concept.

[pyr0_storm]

No more feedback? ;_;

 

I really thought I had something going here...kinda sad to see so few taking any interest..

[GrimR3APER]

I like it, great support ability with that cryosleep one :D +1

[Chaosnamed]

Typing this from my phone, sorry if there are typos or format issues.

Firstly, I think I can shed some light on why people are hesitant to support this. The first issue is that Lotus definitely has an Oracle-esque untouchable presence right now. As far as we know, no Tennis has actually seen her in person. Giving her a proxy could dampen this image and make Lotus seem less immortal which some players and/or devs may not want. The second issue is plot. A growing number of fans seem to be questioning Lotus's true intentions. This might get complicated for Lotus frames if Lotus turns out to be not - so - benevolent towards the Tenno later on.

Personally, I think this concept has a lot of potential. I would love an ability that extends bleed out time. To me, Lotus feels like an AI and, whatever her intentions, she has a large stake in the Tenno. It would make sense that she would want a Warframe proxy on the field.

[MechaTails]

Nah.

 

 

 

Ok, ill elaborate- Nevermind, that guy up there summed it up. Lol

 

First skill is just a crappier version of Sonar. Pass.

 

Petal Bomb sounds like it would be interesting to see in action, seems like a good fit for Saryn.

 

Cryo sounds neat, would combo really well with that mod that boosts damage while youre bleeding out, and the one that also extends the time. Let your friend bleedout and they can singlehandedly defend a pod or whatever for like 2 minutes, dealing massive damage. Skill sounds good for a support frame.

 

The last skill sounds like it would look cool, but its also underwhelming. I think the damage debuff would have to be massive for it to be worth using (for it to be noticeable), and at that point you're just turning the game into easy mode, since theyre also being made less aggressive.

 

And yeah, I totally want Lotus to go rogue on us lol

Edited June 17, 2014 by DarkTails

[Hunter126]

well lotus is mainly a computer and you cannot take Byakuya Kuchiki's petal blades from BLEACH because it his. (I don't actually care)

Maybe lotus is only good at making weapons but not good frames (by that i mean ones like her)

 

I dunno, i don't think i'd hav it.

[Chaosnamed]

A suggestion for an ability to potentially replace Petal Bomb or Consumption:

 

Misinform

 

Using a proxy, Lotus feed the enemy false info, identifying the target as a "traitor". Enemies will then turn their attention towards this unit and it will become a priority until defeated.

[pyr0_storm]

well lotus is mainly a computer and you cannot take Byakuya Kuchiki's petal blades from BLEACH because it his. (I don't actually care)

Maybe lotus is only good at making weapons but not good frames (by that i mean ones like her)

 

I dunno, i don't think i'd hav it.

I said think along those lines, not perform copyright infringement.

 

A suggestion for an ability to potentially replace Petal Bomb or Consumption:

 

Misinform

 

Using a proxy, Lotus feed the enemy false info, identifying the target as a "traitor". Enemies will then turn their attention towards this unit and it will become a priority until defeated.

Interesting change, I rather like it. Perhaps make it work solely on bosses tho? Seems like it would be a waste to use on regular enemies...

 

Nah.

 

 

 

Ok, ill elaborate- Nevermind, that guy up there summed it up. Lol

 

First skill is just a crappier version of Sonar. Pass.

Not sure where you get the idea it's a crappier version, the intent is that you can see the enemies approaching even without the minimap...perhaps useful for nightmare missions if the ones without the minimap are still in rotation. Otherwise I'm glad  you like my proposed skill sets.

[Chaosnamed]

I like the discussion so far. As for misinform, it would be useful against bosses, but I imagine it being useful for getting out of a tight spot or defense missions as well. Using it on a heavy gunner/napalm or infested support and now you don't have to waste your time on a high health target and you've taken the heat off of yourself or the cryopod. It's less powerful but more tactical than typical AoE ultimates.

[Nachoguy5]

This idea is pretty lame, though. The powers are pretty lacking and the idea in general feels lazy. "It's like the Lotus, but NOT the Lotus! Oooooh"

[Leviathan101]

 

Suggested Abilities:

 

*Clairvoyance - As opposed to the Lotus herself warning Tenno of enemies approaching, the Lotus Warframe casts Clairvoyance and - along with allies - can see targets approaching on the Minimap (much like Enemy Radar or Sonar) as well as thru the walls as a faint outline. 

 

*Petal Bomb - Lotus deploys several petal shaped bombs (think Senbonzakura from BLEACH) that fly away in all directions from Lotus and explode on contact with enemies. These petals deal gas (or perhaps toxic) damage (since some versions of lotus plants are toxic)

 

*Cryostasis - Lotus can help preserve a downed ally by using this ability to significantly increase the bleedout time, giving allies more time to revive the fallen Tenno. This ability works like Vauban's abilities; Lotus throws a small sphere to deploy a temporary - not permanent - stasis pod to preserve the Tenno. Lotus could potentially use this on herself if she throws it straight up the moment before she goes down.  While the Tenno is enclosed he/she can not attack or use gear. Much like the pods we defend on the regular this pod can be destroyed if it takes too much damage but will not normally draw enemies' aggro. We wake Tenno from cryopods on her orders after all, why can't she help put one back in for a minute?

 

*Consumption(?) - Much like the tree of myth, Lotus throws orbs that - once they come in contact with enemies - reduce their aggression and damage output. Enemies under the effects of this move become confused for a moment and have reduced damage as well as reduced awareness of Tenno presence...until it's too late.

 

Now I don't have any artwork since I can't draw to save my life, but if someone wanted to come up with something for me I would be grateful; my idea is essentially that the Lotus Warframe looks an awful lot like the Lotus herself but perhaps a tiny but more floral.

 

I don't know, but please specify the type of frame you think "Lotus" should be. Support, Attack, Defense. I'd have to say support. Especially of the Clairvoyance thing. But tbh, the idea needs a bit support on the fact that you're only telling us the abilities.

 

Nah.

 

 

 

First skill is just a crappier version of Sonar. Pass.

 

Petal Bomb sounds like it would be interesting to see in action, seems like a good fit for Saryn.

 

And yeah, I totally want Lotus to go rogue on us lol

Yeah. I agree. We could just simply return the 2 skill to their owners.

We should just annoy Lotus and make her kill us. Done. Fun story. lol

[Hunter126]

i don't like dis frame. 

 

first is like Sonar

Second is Byakuya kuchiki's senbonzakura (acts like psychic bolts)

Third is like a strong Undying Will.

Fourth isn't a offense 

so i dunno if dis is offense, defense or support

 

Best one is probably the second.

[MechaTails]

Oh you can see them through walls... would look cool, but I'm still not wowed. It still sounds about as useful as Sonar, except Sonar also gives you a huge damage boost.

[pyr0_storm]

Oh you can see them through walls... would look cool, but I'm still not wowed. It still sounds about as useful as Sonar, except Sonar also gives you a huge damage boost.

One of - and probably the biggest oh the major selling points I'm trying to hit here is that while it doesn't give you the damage boost Sonar does, it gives  you the ability to see incoming enemies thru walls/obstacles even without the minimap so it would give you an advantage in Nightmare Mode. Apart from that, I find it tiresome to a degree to flip back and forth between trying to read minimap readouts with enemy aura and navigating a map at the same time. at least with this, you can see the enemies in their actual locations instead of trying to read it on the minimap.

[MechaTails]

They brought back the disappearing minimap? Ugh lol

 

I see your point about it being useful to spot enemies with precision in Nightmare Mode, where even one sneak attack could kill you instantly, it's definitely better than Sonar in that regard.

 

I'm just used to Sonar and can already tell where the enemies are hiding, so I just shoot through the wall/cover at them, that's why I'm not thrilled about that first skill. But I guess it would be useful for newer players

Edited June 21, 2014 by DarkTails