shepshifter Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Which means gear has a sort of timeline. As I mentioned before...the Soma might be an ORIGINAL Tenno design. Not every Tenno weapon will receive Primes....simply because not every weapon is actually ancient Orokin based tech that has been rediscovered/copied. The boar prime itself was tenno manufactured along side the boar. Read the codex entry for the boar prime, it states it was teno made. With both boars being tenno weapons not from the orokin era, they are newly engineered weapons. So it is a possibility that soma could be primed and fit with lore/still make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shehriazad Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The boar prime itself was tenno manufactured along side the boar. Read the codex entry for the boar prime, it states it was teno made. With both boars being tenno weapons not from the orokin era, they are newly engineered weapons. So it is a possibility that soma could be primed and fit with lore/still make sense. "Current Tenno technology is derived from the Primes and other Orokin technology, as the Tenno have tried to imitate the success of the Orokin in the form of the non-Prime items. With the discovery of the Voids, many Prime items are being reclaimed by the Tenno and reverse-engineered by Corpus and Grineer, their power being realized once more." Basically....The Boar would be a lorebreaker in this case, one that has to be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teqnologyque Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Basically....The Boar would be a lorebreaker in this case, one that has to be fixed. Implying that the Tenno order during the time of the Orokin didn't make their own weapons... Y'know, like the Dakra as well. 'Cause obviously, the S#&$ the Orokin were giving their infantry was basically an M16, a 1911, and a set of flak gear. What self-respecting Tenno would use that S#&$ when they can just make their own? EDIT: Pertinent to that; It's like you're assuming the Tenno just sat around or spent their whole day doing drills until something came up. Part of discipline (Especially in a Samurai-Inspired society) would be learning the maintenance and function of your weapons, which may have included creation. From what I understand, the Tenno order were soldiers, yes, but they still partook of other disciplines. Helps keep the mind sharp and focused. Compare the Ghurka to the Navy SEALS, as an example. Edited June 18, 2014 by Teqnologyque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'd like a soma prime.; But buff something else than crit damage or damage. Maybe reload speed and less recoil something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammaion Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Soma is Tenno Manufactured.. so no Prime. Tenno manfactured weapons are replicas of their original Primed variants. The Tenno weapon is weaker of course, due to it being an attempt to replicate Orokin tech. Look at how strong Boltor Prime is to the normal Boltor. Corpus and Grineer weapons cannot be primed, as they are independant weapons. The only exception to this is the Braton rifle, which is likely a weapon the Corpus tried to replicate when they were salvaging the Void. Instead, Grineer weapons get Wraith variants, and Corpus weapons get Vandal variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shehriazad Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Implying that the Tenno order during the time of the Orokin didn't make their own weapons... Y'know, like the Dakra as well. 'Cause obviously, the S#&$ the Orokin were giving their infantry was basically an M16, a 1911, and a set of flak gear. What self-respecting Tenno would use that S#&$ when they can just make their own? EDIT: Pertinent to that; It's like you're assuming the Tenno just sat around or spent their whole day doing drills until something came up. Part of discipline (Especially in a Samurai-Inspired society) would be learning the maintenance and function of your weapons, which may have included creation. From what I understand, the Tenno order were soldiers, yes, but they still partook of other disciplines. Helps keep the mind sharp and focused. Compare the Ghurka to the Navy SEALS, as an example. I felt he meant the Boar was built after the Orokin times...and still got a prime. In which case this all would make no sense. If Tenno actually knew how to make Prime weapons and frames...why would there be any normal gear to begin with now? My take on this is that the Soma was created AFTER the fall of the Orokin Empire...(the design does not look quite like an adopted copy of Orokin) and can thus never receive a Prime...simply because it is Original Tenno work. Edited June 18, 2014 by Shehriazad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teqnologyque Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I felt he meant the Boar was built after the Orokin times...and still got a prime. In which case this all would make no sense. If Tenno actually knew how to make Prime weapons and frames...why would there be any normal gear to begin with now? The world's greatest Deus Ex Machina, of course! Laser-Guided Amnesia! Or some other plot contrivance... I do apologize though if my post came off as kind of smug, I'm an A****** by nature. To be honest, I kind of want DE to explain more of this as well, or at least give us a definitive answer on the subject once and for all. The way the game reveals lore now is... interesting, however. It certainly puts the player in the shoes of the Tenno, that meaning, we know as much about the system as they do, or maybe more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A bit off topic, but I would personally love it if DE started releasing Corrupted variants of weapons. Make them look infested, with increased proc chance and damage but slower fire rate and reload speed. Just an idea. If this were to take off they could even remodel some Warframes that aren't likely to receive a Prime version. Can you say Corrupted Nekros or maybe Corrupted Ash? Eventually, I imagine they will likely do something similar to this since the Prime variants will lose their luster after so long. Back to topic though, I would kill to have a Soma Prime. To whoever said that Boltor Prime = Best Gun, I'm not denying that, but there are a lot of other great guns and I don't want to run around with Boltor Prime all the time. The way I see it, the more Primes the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Tenno manfactured weapons are replicas of their original Primed variants. The Tenno weapon is weaker of course, due to it being an attempt to replicate Orokin tech. Look at how strong Boltor Prime is to the normal Boltor. Corpus and Grineer weapons cannot be primed, as they are independant weapons. The only exception to this is the Braton rifle, which is likely a weapon the Corpus tried to replicate when they were salvaging the Void. Instead, Grineer weapons get Wraith variants, and Corpus weapons get Vandal variants. I've always wondered why they haven't released a special version of Infested weapons. I realize it's likely because you have to research Infested weaponry but that's still not much of a reason. DE could easily release an event that gives you a blueprint for a more powerful version of an Infested weapon upon completion. Obviously said blueprint would require more mutagen masses and likely other resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Budukai_Man Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I quit using the soma in a week, it was nice but got boring. It got nerfed huh, I think at that point I was using the synapse. Then that got old, the grakata is fun now. I feel DE will do more secondary primes, like the Hikou. Garbage but fun to throw so many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 isnt it crap weapons that get primed so they are good or less crap? not priming awesome stuff into godlike awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_RoXey_ Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Soma prime will be good but make sure that requires high mastery rank like 13-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchSyker Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Soma is Tenno Manufactured.. so no Prime. u know that the tenno weps become prime? it s like: Tenno- Prime, Corpus-Vandal, Grineer-Wraith and Infested-*still no released(-.-)* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I pray they never release a Galatine Prime. If they did it would be the only melee weapon anyone used for months. Although I'm sure it would look incredible to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromeos-Prime Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I pray they never release a Galatine Prime. If they did it would be the only melee weapon anyone used for months. Although I'm sure it would look incredible to say the least. I doubt a lot of people would use it for that long, cause the Galatine no longer has it's "Godly" charge and people are too lazy to find Cleaving Whirlwind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchel Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 There should be a Soma prime. but i'd say that only an increase of 10% damage. not too op and with gold swag as always. i don't know what the fuzz is about, its really simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The days when Soma, Brakk, Galentine'd Rhinos were everywhere. With those energy scarfs. Those were the days. oh god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) i would much prefer to see what DE has in mind. those designs are meh and do not differ enough from the original. A more third-dimensional approach would be preferred. Edited June 20, 2014 by Legion-Shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 i would much prefer to see what DE has in mind. those designs are meh. They are concepts from DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorq Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 About high time soma gets some prime love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CicaedaV Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 u know that the tenno weps become prime? it s like: Tenno- Prime, Corpus-Vandal, Grineer-Wraith and Infested-*still no released(-.-)* Nope, Tenno weapons don't become prime, Prime weapons are the originals and our tenno weapons are either brand new made by us or an orokin knock off. Vandal and Wraith seem to be tenno modified corpus & grineer weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyfulmama Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 soma prime comes out, one soma 3 forma one potatoe flies into the waste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 They are concepts from DE. omg fc this im out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevanChambers Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Soma is Tenno Manufactured.. so no Prime. This distinction has never been made. All Tenno weapons are assumed to be degenerate primes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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