Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 One of the best experiences I've had in the game was when I first encountered the Grustrag Three, and the one thing that made it so surreal for me was that she was genuinely afraid for me. I don't know why, but I kind of expected her to be scared for my survival during this event. She has a laid back attitude that just says "oh, whatever. This isn't that big of a deal. We can handle this just fine", which is why when she was terrified, it was so... almost realistic in a way, I guess. It was immersive. It's difficult to explain. Am I the only one who feels like the game would feel better if Lotus was more emotional about things? I've never been drawn to shooters, but the Lotus is the biggest reason I continued playing and why I have put over $500 into Warframe, at least. She is my favorite thing about the game (even when she repeats herself unnecessarily, I just love her voice), and I'd like for her to be not so stale like she is now, I suppose. Thoughts?
-Refractor- Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 That is actually the only thing that unnerved me the first time they showed for me, I was thinking it was just gonna be like another stalker run in, but all the sudden she pops up like that and despite all I knew about them and their tactics and how to kill them, it made me a bit nervous and caused me to use a lot more caution. Onto the main question though I do think that it would be a great addition to have more emotion for many of the voice-overs from Rebecca.
Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 Well she may or may not be a robot, so... If she is, she's a very sophisticated one... She's shown emotion before, like I mentioned in my OP. She really has an aversion to doing it, though.
Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 That is actually the only thing that unnerved me the first time they showed for me, I was thinking it was just gonna be like another stalker run in, but all the sudden she pops up like that and despite all I knew about them and their tactics and how to kill them, it made me a bit nervous and caused me to use a lot more caution. Onto the main question though I do think that it would be a great addition to have more emotion for many of the voice-overs from Rebecca. That was exactly how it was for me. I read about the Grustrag Three, and I was confident I could handle them, but the Lotus made me feel like I should be scared... I agree. Rebecca has a nice voice. Q_Q Even with everything they do to her voice in the game, it is still wonderful.
Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 Lotus is a stoic gal. Tell me about it. Q_Q Would it kill her to just love me?
RahuHordika Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 It's not just the Lotus' case. Although to be honest all the characters really lack a form of facial expression, they only got basic up and down mouth movements. That is something that should be improved upon.
Bobsplosion Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Whether or not she is a robot, I'll admit that the G3 event made me really feel for her.
Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 It's not just the Lotus' case. Although to be honest all the characters really lack a form of facial expression, they only got basic up and down mouth movements. That is something that should be improved upon. Yeah... They could all be improved to show more emotion. Still, I see Lotus more often than the other ones, so...
Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 I'd love to see lotus cry. Q_Q Don't hurt her feelings! Whether or not she is a robot, I'll admit that the G3 event made me really feel for her. On the real. It was a great experience, even though I almost got my &#! handed to me by them.
Mirriky Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) I think the sudden break of emotion and worry from Lotus with the G3 was because they were unexpected, you were not ready for them, it was not in the mission brief. The infested, we know what is in there, we are prepared and aware of what could happen. Emotion is good, but it needs to be something rare to have the biggest impact Edited June 20, 2014 by cam-o-flage20
-Refractor- Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I think the sudden break of emotion and worry from Lotus with the G3 was because they were unexpected, you were not ready for them, it was not in the mission brief. The infested, we know what is in there, we are prepared and aware of what could happen. Emotion is good, but it needs to be something rare to have the biggest impact This is actually an incredibly good point, the reason the G3 one meant so much was probably because you have never heard her have emotion like that in her voice, so it being the only time it ever happened it has a much heavier impact. So maybe from a more long term idea have the emotional parts be only something that happens when something major happens as a random event and not part of the "mission"
KittyDarkling Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 This is actually an incredibly good point, the reason the G3 one meant so much was probably because you have never heard her have emotion like that in her voice, so it being the only time it ever happened it has a much heavier impact. So maybe from a more long term idea have the emotional parts be only something that happens when something major happens as a random event and not part of the "mission" I agree entirely, If she's emotional all the time then we'll just know her as being ill informed, -and- a cry baby. I'd much rather her remain confident and somewhat disconnected for most of her interactions with the Tenno. Then only when S#&$'s hitting the fan does she actually display concern. Also I'd be disgusted if they threw in a scene of her crying. She's "The Lotus" She's the leader of the most elite and powerful organization in the system, that alone requires great strength and strong will. Regardless if she's malevolent or beneficial to the system she should never be portrait as someone who's going to break down over loosing a single unit. If anything, I want to see her Angry, and in response to that anger, I want to see her do something questionable. Not evil, or even wrong, just something that seams a little more personal. Like sending us to kill a Corpus higher up for "reasons" but we find out he wasn't that bad of a guy "for a Corpus" and the truth is he was only targeted because he gained the Lotus's personal scorn. In short the Lotus should always be depicted as strong, and if we have to pick from emotions she should show I'd say either Anger or a bad attempt at humor. I imagine Lotus to have a sense of humor (Or lack there of) on the level of Castiel from supernatural. Or happy I guess... you know if it's suuuuuch an important emotion.
Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 I agree entirely, If she's emotional all the time then we'll just know her as being ill informed, -and- a cry baby. I'd much rather her remain confident and somewhat disconnected for most of her interactions with the Tenno. Then only when S#&$'s hitting the fan does she actually display concern. Also I'd be disgusted if they threw in a scene of her crying. She's "The Lotus" She's the leader of the most elite and powerful organization in the system, that alone requires great strength and strong will. Regardless if she's malevolent or beneficial to the system she should never be portrait as someone who's going to break down over loosing a single unit. If anything, I want to see her Angry, and in response to that anger, I want to see her do something questionable. Not evil, or even wrong, just something that seams a little more personal. Like sending us to kill a Corpus higher up for "reasons" but we find out he wasn't that bad of a guy "for a Corpus" and the truth is he was only targeted because he gained the Lotus's personal scorn. In short the Lotus should always be depicted as strong, and if we have to pick from emotions she should show I'd say either Anger or a bad attempt at humor. I imagine Lotus to have a sense of humor (Or lack there of) on the level of Castiel from supernatural. Or happy I guess... you know if it's suuuuuch an important emotion. I've yet to actually see her angry... Ugh, she would give me goosebumps. I think the sudden break of emotion and worry from Lotus with the G3 was because they were unexpected, you were not ready for them, it was not in the mission brief. The infested, we know what is in there, we are prepared and aware of what could happen. Emotion is good, but it needs to be something rare to have the biggest impact Of course. That's what also made G3 so intense for me. It was completely unexpected. Obviously we don't want her to be portrayed as a coward, like KittyDarkling pointed out, though. I would like for them all to show some sense of emotion. Doesn't have to be fear or happiness or anger, per se. Anguish, maybe, or even panic. Just a thought.
Pbrandon1 Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I agree entirely, If she's emotional all the time then we'll just know her as being ill informed, -and- a cry baby. I'd much rather her remain confident and somewhat disconnected for most of her interactions with the Tenno. Then only when S#&$'s hitting the fan does she actually display concern. Also I'd be disgusted if they threw in a scene of her crying. She's "The Lotus" She's the leader of the most elite and powerful organization in the system, that alone requires great strength and strong will. Regardless if she's malevolent or beneficial to the system she should never be portrait as someone who's going to break down over loosing a single unit. If anything, I want to see her Angry, and in response to that anger, I want to see her do something questionable. Not evil, or even wrong, just something that seams a little more personal. Like sending us to kill a Corpus higher up for "reasons" but we find out he wasn't that bad of a guy "for a Corpus" and the truth is he was only targeted because he gained the Lotus's personal scorn. In short the Lotus should always be depicted as strong, and if we have to pick from emotions she should show I'd say either Anger or a bad attempt at humor. I imagine Lotus to have a sense of humor (Or lack there of) on the level of Castiel from supernatural. Or happy I guess... you know if it's suuuuuch an important emotion. Well, it's quite hard for her to try and place a target on someone since the Board that controls the Tenno are the ones that approve missions and inform the Lotus to tell the Tenno about them. Unless she is able to convince him of being a threat or does it in secrecy, there is no other way of her doing something like that out of anger.
Hexagoros Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I think the sudden break of emotion and worry from Lotus with the G3 was because they were unexpected, you were not ready for them, it was not in the mission brief. The infested, we know what is in there, we are prepared and aware of what could happen. Emotion is good, but it needs to be something rare to have the biggest impact This. I don't want Lotus shouting, crying, and generally 'emotioning' at every turn. It would be repetitious, and quite frankly silly
Cpl_Facehugger Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 One of the best experiences I've had in the game was when I first encountered the Grustrag Three, and the one thing that made it so surreal for me was that she was genuinely afraid for me. I don't know why, but I kind of expected her to be scared for my survival during this event. She has a laid back attitude that just says "oh, whatever. This isn't that big of a deal. We can handle this just fine", which is why when she was terrified, it was so... almost realistic in a way, I guess. It was immersive. It's difficult to explain. Am I the only one who feels like the game would feel better if Lotus was more emotional about things? I've never been drawn to shooters, but the Lotus is the biggest reason I continued playing and why I have put over $500 into Warframe, at least. She is my favorite thing about the game (even when she repeats herself unnecessarily, I just love her voice), and I'd like for her to be not so stale like she is now, I suppose. Thoughts? I think making Lotus more emotional would take away from the few times when she is emotional, you know? Like, her concern about the G3 wouldn't be as meaningful if she was worried about trash infested like Alad's hives.
Methanoid Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 if the lotus started giggling and doing other silly things id probably hate that more, shes fine as is tbh.
SanguineSavant Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Open beta so not entirely impossible however not too screw up your fantasy of a Lotus 'waifu' but the Lotus is a diplomatic representative to the Tenno to our knowledge. She is responsible for the regulation and deployment of Tenno. No politician cries for a soldier so let's be realistic and acknowledge that we are first and foremost an asset to her. Preferential treatment of one soldier, ie Tenno, over another would be unfair or imbalanced - the Lotus thrives on balance, it is her modus operandi and should she neglect it then she is willfully admitting hypocrisy.
Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 if the lotus started giggling and doing other silly things id probably hate that more, shes fine as is tbh. You are taking the emotional thing waaaaay too far.
Zachles Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) Open beta so not entirely impossible however not too screw up your fantasy of a Lotus 'waifu' but the Lotus is a diplomatic representative to the Tenno to our knowledge. She is responsible for the regulation and deployment of Tenno. No politician cries for a soldier so let's be realistic and acknowledge that we are first and foremost an asset to her. Preferential treatment of one soldier, ie Tenno, over another would be unfair or imbalanced - the Lotus thrives on balance, it is her modus operandi and should she neglect it then she is willfully admitting hypocrisy. What? EDIT: You are taking the emotional thing a bit too seriously, too. Edited June 20, 2014 by Zachles
Methanoid Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 You are taking the emotional thing waaaaay too far. the middle ground of too much and too little is probably what we have just now, nice and neutral, its not like shes any different to regular military/civilian comms.
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