Loopien Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 After watching the live stream of the sneak peaks at update 14, I was a little bit bothered by the method of obtaining differently patterned Kubrows. From what I can gather it works like this, 1. You find your Kubrow Egg and bring it to the genetics lab. 2. You hatch your Kubrow and wait for it to mature. 3. You get your adult Kubrow and somebody's to breed together and get a new egg, dump your Kubrow and hatch a new one to have as your own. and if you want a specific Kubrow; 4. Rinse and repeat until you get the Kubrow of your dreams. Now breeding thousands of pokemon Kubrows until you get the perfect IV's Colors, may seem like a fun way to bolster friendships and expand on Kubrows, but I can already foresee a few problems with this method. My biggest problem with the way this is dealt with is right off the bat, I love my Kubrow. I don't even own one and I love it, even having to get rid of something that is fake seems rather detrimental to the need to raise one to get its full benefits. Why if part of the fun of owning a Kubrow is raising it from birth to adulthood, would there be a need to get rid of it in order to have your own perfect one? Now another issue that I think comes to mind is the need to have someone else to be able to use this function of breeding. I feel like this should be something handled mostly in the genetics lab from a single persons standpoint, and not make it necessary for me to go out and find other people to get my blue striped chunkypup. My proposed solution to this problem is to treat Kubrows like we treat Warframes, to an extent. Now, instead of having to get your Kubrow, only to have to get rid of it for a different styled one, why not simply make the Kubrows genetic composition more malleable due to it being raised from the genetics lab? This way you could say that since your Kubrow is a product of genetic modification, changing its current composition is as simple as adding an accessory to a sentinel. Well, maybe it takes some time to complete, but something that would be able to make my Kubrow the same, without losing that person feel, yet still cause me to go out and collect the proper modifications. And as for gathering the specific genetic mods, I feel that if you go out and find an egg, after you already own a Kubrow, you should be able to extract DNA from the unhatched Kubrow, and instead your Kubrows DNA, along with the eggs DNA, will be stored in a genetic bank of sorts, like an inventory for Kubrow. These strands of Kubrow DNA can affect how your Kubrow looks and Behaves. And if someone else has a strand of DNA that you want, make it tradable so that you can still go to other players for the option of saving yourself some time looking for DNA. And on this matter I believe that breeding can still exist as a way to get some of the rarer DNA's that may not appear as often in a natural, wild Kubrow egg, but have a higher chance of showing up due to the random aspect of genetic modification. I hope that you guys take some time to consider my statement, and sorry if I get my wording wrong, I am not the best typist but I still hope to try and make a point. I don't want to lose my Kubrow, but I also want to make my Kubrow look its best.
Archistopheles Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Really people... Phrasing! Blending Kubrow is wrong. You'd end up with nothing but a bloody mess.
TrinityPrime Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) Why egg though... Why not just have us scan the dens for a kubrow genetic template? Then we can grow them in a test tube! Edited June 20, 2014 by KnotOfMetal
kimahn Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 i like you OP. some if us expressed that a bit less ... huh .. rationally. well.
Yezzik Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I'd prefer it if we didn't so much blend our kubrow as we did GENETICALLY blend them, by splicing magical space DNA into our fluffy puppies until they became the precisely-coloured and patterned killing machines we wanted.
Brahmastra Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 And soon we will end up with chihuahua's in space...
RahuHordika Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) I am really, really bothered by this. So we grow our Kubrow, breed it then toss it aside until we get what we want? What? This is a sci-fi game, it can't be that difficult to just genetically modify our kubrow from birth. I mean that's why we're calling it a genetic foundry no? And besides people already get attached to their sentinels, but you want us to grow our kubrow, interact with it, bond with it and then just toss it aside for a better one? Also haven't people complained about the issue of having to constantly look for them? I mean I'm okay if it's during in-game time, that's fine but they better not make it real time, people have lives out there. Also I'm sure it was said our Kubrows can die in a mission.... so the guy we grew up from birth and bonded with and all that can suddendly be gone just like that? I mean because we all know just how insane the damage is from enemies in higher levels so what does that mean for the combat oriented Kubrows then? Can't we just have them like enter a downed or inactivity/wounded state so they cannot be used until a time has passed at the very least? I love the idea of the Kubrows and the degree of interactability and customization please me. I don't mind they're just another 'buy, use, store' item but I think DE may be overcomplicating things a little too much. Edited June 20, 2014 by RahuStalker
Jeahanne Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 So, I'm sorry to necro an older thread, but I didn't want to start a new thread if one like this was already around. My idea is much like the opening post's. However, what about we don't bring back Kubrow eggs (or whatever they end up being) at all? Instead, what if we do like what happened in the Cicero Crisis and used the Codex Scanners on Kubrow Dens on Earth to "gather" genetic information much like how in that event we had to gather "samples" of native plants. Of course, some genetic material, like the plants in Cicero, would be rarer than others, and the duplicates or unwanted samples could be traded between players. Then only the rarest (if any) genetic strains would be obtainable through breeding if that even became an option. This way, there's no "puppy blender" or endless raising/breeding/releasing circle, you just gather genetic information in a harmless manner until you collect the traits you're looking for to fuse into and grow your perfect kubrow puppy?
Renegade343 Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 So we are messing around with eugenics? That feels ethically grey, if you ask me.
LukeAura Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 That feels ethically grey, if you ask me. We're already mass murderers you know. But you're going to draw the line at genetic modifications? I wouldn't mind a system with less death involved. Now, I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but what if we could alter Kubrow body types, coat colours, whatever stats they might have, all that, by altering their diet? You know, different proteins and chemicals we process in to food that promotes their growth in a certain direction. Maybe from things that exist in their natural environment, that we haven't touched in a few updates but still exist there. Am I threshing my hints enough or has my idea been planted in to your brains yet? Yes I'm making one bad joke, but I think scanning the plants throughout earth might make a return.
Phatose Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) We're already mass murderers you know. But you're going to draw the line at genetic modifications? I wouldn't mind a system with less death involved. Now, I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but what if we could alter Kubrow body types, coat colours, whatever stats they might have, all that, by altering their diet? You know, different proteins and chemicals we process in to food that promotes their growth in a certain direction. Maybe from things that exist in their natural environment, that we haven't touched in a few updates but still exist there. Am I threshing my hints enough or has my idea been planted in to your brains yet? Yes I'm making one bad joke, but I think scanning the plants throughout earth might make a return. While I'm sure it's not what you intended, I've just gotten a distinct visual of a Tenno picking flowers on Earth, then using them to spray-paint their dog. Edited June 25, 2014 by Phatose
MrTiddlywinks Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) But... will it blend? Kubrow smoke.. don't breath this. Edited July 20, 2014 by MrTiddlywinks
Kethus Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 We're already mass murderers you know. But you're going to draw the line at genetic modifications? I wouldn't mind a system with less death involved. Now, I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but what if we could alter Kubrow body types, coat colours, whatever stats they might have, all that, by altering their diet? You know, different proteins and chemicals we process in to food that promotes their growth in a certain direction. Maybe from things that exist in their natural environment, that we haven't touched in a few updates but still exist there. Am I threshing my hints enough or has my idea been planted in to your brains yet? Yes I'm making one bad joke, but I think scanning the plants throughout earth might make a return. Diet, why not? Drinking stuff irl can already permanently change your skin color, there could be something more advanced this far in the future.
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