Garuger Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) I am just sad bcause another of my fav channels went down and my playlists feel emptier every day. That channel had no modern albums and everything it has was around 70~80 from mostly unkwonw artists ( Can,Moondog,Klaatu etc )and very unique prog rock that is almost imposible to find now days (Zao , Embryo , Magma etc) yets it was closed for :YouTube account Zzyzx Xopferna has been terminated because we received multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement and i am just sad . Why such reare masterpieces must be hunt down and not be protected .I am just mad and very very sad and i had to tell it somewhere My playlists (what remain from them ) : Edited June 25, 2014 by Garuger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 you should have downloaded them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egregiousRac Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The people that have stopped making money off their work are always the most triggerhappy with their DMCAs. To the people making tons of money it is free advertising, to the ones making no money it looks like lost sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuger Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 you should have downloaded them They were hunders it had above 500 full albums i cant downlaod that amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemges Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Thats because google is launching youtube music subscription service for free and some companies can't agree on terms or are long gone, so royalty can't be paid properly to copyright holders properly if it allowed these music on youtube. This is probably the answer you are looking for, as launch of that service is imminent. Edited June 25, 2014 by Cemges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalu__Ka Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Because copyrights still apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuger Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) The people that have stopped making money off their work are always the most triggerhappy with their DMCAs. To the people making tons of money it is free advertising, to the ones making no money it looks like lost sales. I understand what you are saying but those albums were unique and are not sold anywhere expect E-bay and that is a big maybe. The creators or bands of them were disbanded or even died yo cant expect sales from something that does not excist for example try to find an album from Can from an official dealer either a hard copy or a digital copy it excitsts none so no one can make money from it Edit:nvm amazon added them along with others now i need money but still there are a lot of albums missing Edited June 25, 2014 by Garuger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuger Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Because copyrights still apply. Yet there is not a single copy to buy either digital or hard copy so how do they lose money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuger Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Thats because google is launching youtube music subscription service for free and some companies can't agree on terms or are long gone, so royalty can't be paid properly to copyright holders properly if it allowed these music on youtube. This is probably the answer you are looking for, as launch of that service is imminent. Heard about that is it srs going to take place? Then how do i download 2000 + albums ffs? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalu__Ka Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yet there is not a single copy to buy either digital or hard copy so how do they lose money? It's not about losing money, it is about using someone elses work without having permission to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuger Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 It's not about losing money, it is about using someone elses work without having permission to do so. But they are dead and it is always about the money XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalu__Ka Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 https://www.google.nl/search?q=youtube++copyright+laws&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=Dr2qU5fsHsyZOoKFgbAK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuger Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Edited June 25, 2014 by Garuger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10twenty4 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 The big issue is that Youtube's copyright infringement system is notoriously poorly designed. It favors the accuser, with very little ability for the accused to defend themselves. It's mostly entirely automated, meaning that a person with a botnet or some kind of organized group can get a channel taken down very easily, regardless of whether infringement is actually occurring. The second issue is that even if the music is old, that doesn't mean it's public domain. In all likelihood, that music was uploaded without the consent of its rights holders, who have every right to have it taken down. The final issue is that you're apparently using youtube as your main way of listening to music. Using it to discover new stuff is fine, but the audio quality on YT is terrible. Either buy the music through legal means or pirate it in a way that gets you decent quality files, but don't listen to/rip from youtube on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemges Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 The big issue is that Youtube's copyright infringement system is notoriously poorly designed. It favors the accuser, with very little ability for the accused to defend themselves. It's mostly entirely automated, meaning that a person with a botnet or some kind of organized group can get a channel taken down very easily, regardless of whether infringement is actually occurring. The second issue is that even if the music is old, that doesn't mean it's public domain. In all likelihood, that music was uploaded without the consent of its rights holders, who have every right to have it taken down. The final issue is that you're apparently using youtube as your main way of listening to music. Using it to discover new stuff is fine, but the audio quality on YT is terrible. Either buy the music through legal means or pirate it in a way that gets you decent quality files, but don't listen to/rip from youtube on a regular basis. You really dont read news or didnt read my post right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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