Keyse Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 I'll admit it, I don't like Nekros, and haven't used him in months because of it. He just doesn't fit my play style i suppose. I used him this morning tho and his desecrations weren't working consistently, or occasionally at all.Here's what happens.I kill an enemy Grineer and desecrate. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it doesnt, I stand over the body and continue to desecrate. Sometimes it works, again, sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't again, I place my cross hairs over the body (if it hasn't vanished by now), sometimes it works and well... you get the idea.I've tried extending the skills range thinking maybe it needed some umph. But even with a 90% overextended, it's still hit and miss. One body inparticular took me desecrating it 5 times to get the loot out of it! And a leg (not the gibby ones, an actual leg) took 4 times to get anything out of it!The last time I used him (probably around update 12-ish), I had desecrated and everything within a certain range dropped loot. Everything! Torsos, legs, arms, heads, horizontally split bodies, vertically split bodies lol. Everything!Is having to desecrate 4-5 times per body part and still not always getting loot normal now? Or am I just doing it all wrong?
immolator1001 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 90% chance to desecrate not 100. Sometimes rng rng's. Also the smallest part you can desecrate are halves. So if an enemy gets it's arm chopped off that won't work, but if they get chopped in half you can desecrate the torso and lower half.
Aeiroth Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Since you haven't used him for a long time, make note that there has been changes to Nekros' Desecrate ability. It's now an AoE around Nekros and he has a % chance to desecrate the corpse for a Red Orb. If the roll is successful and a Red Orb IS spawned, a second roll will be applied to the Drop Tables for a chance at resources and mods. I think I've answered this correctly.
Kestral9999 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 I wish with every fiber of my being that they would change Nekros' Desecrate to the way it worked before.
Aeiroth Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 You prefer desecrating a single body with 100% chance over desecrating EVERYTHING dead within 5-50 Meters of you with a 70-80% chance? Oh well, everyone has their tastes.
gnat6 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 90% chance to desecrate not 100. Sometimes rng rng's. Also the smallest part you can desecrate are halves. So if an enemy gets it's arm chopped off that won't work, but if they get chopped in half you can desecrate the torso and lower half. Actually it is a 60% chance to drop a health orb and if it drops a health orb then its a 90% chance to reroll the drop table.
Rydian Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Desecrate, at max rank, has a 60% chance to work per body for all bodies in range.
Keyse Posted June 26, 2014 Author Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) 90% chance to desecrate not 100. Sometimes rng rng's. Also the smallest part you can desecrate are halves. So if an enemy gets it's arm chopped off that won't work, but if they get chopped in half you can desecrate the torso and lower half. I have desecrated arms and legs successfully, but usually get red orbs. Actually it is a 60% chance to drop a health orb and if it drops a health orb then its a 90% chance to reroll the drop table. Thanks for the clarification. Makes more sense with it being 60% than 90% for the first roll, seeing as when desecrate does work I don't get something all of the time. Since you haven't used him for a long time, make note that there has been changes to Nekros' Desecrate ability. It's now an AoE around Nekros and he has a % chance to desecrate the corpse for a Red Orb. If the roll is successful and a Red Orb IS spawned, a second roll will be applied to the Drop Tables for a chance at resources and mods. I think I've answered this correctly. I figured it was an AOE, that's what caught my attention when it wasn't dropping things from closer ranges. At the moment a red orb would be nice, or even a disintegrating body for that matter. As long as I knew it was working all of the time. But I don't even get that most of the time. Maybe that's the 60% that gnat6 was talking about. Tho it feels more like a 25% success rate to me. Still, thanks for the information. It's nice to see how it works when it does work. After reading the wiki, I see now that it does state that there is a maxed 60% success rate for dropping red obs, and later it says the unsuccessfully desecrated bodies can be desecrated over and over again. Which I am doing a lot. lol Am I correct in thinking that the 60% drop rate for orbs is tied with the success rate for the corpse? For example, a 60% chance to desecrate with a disappearing body effect showing. If so, that makes sense with what is happening to me. Maybe most of my desecrations are just plain failing. *Edited for clarification Edited June 26, 2014 by Keyse
Rydian Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 If it works, the body goes away and it drops an orb. - If this works, you get a chance for an item too. If it does not work the body stays and you get no orb. - You don't get any item either since it failed entirely.
Keyse Posted June 28, 2014 Author Posted June 28, 2014 Yeah that seems to be the way it's going. I guess I figured it wasn't working properly since I didn't know the rates were so low. Now that I see it's 60% for the first drop, it makes sense now and isn't such a bother to use.I had searched the forums for an answer, but didn't even think to check the wiki. The place I usually check first! lol Thanks everyone for the information!
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