Energy Drain Op

[MadKirby]

I dont know how about you, but I find Energy Drain very annoying. As in this game there are no Target Dummies like in World of Warcraft for example, so the only way I can test my weapon damage is by doing bosses.

 

One good example is Hyena pack. I picked my Lanka and Volt to quickly get there and to test how Lanka/Voltshield combo does. I had full energy stored but this time I didnt manage to shoot them from distance in time and ended up losing all my 150 energy. So I backed up to get some energy again. When I rushed all the way back to boss that prick Hyena was camping right after a corner to drain me to 0 again. Next time I was more careful and killed the other one Hyena in time (1 of 2). But with the energy drainer it didnt matter. When I carefully approached the corner it jumped right at me draining all my energy for the 3rd time in a mission, making impossible to see anything in my screen and removing my shields completely. I tried to shoot him without the shield but he was lagging by jumping from wall to wall and making impossible to hit with my non-instant projectile Lanka. As I got shield drained too, he just oneshotted me with his charge...

 

Wont test my weps on Hyena pack anymore... Their debuffs make Warframes useless... Hardest boss IMO... (Nope, new Vay Hek is still easier (even if he has energy drain too, at least his energy drain has a cooldown) ) 

 

Same goes with Energy Leech eximus. They like to camp at corner.

 

My recommendation - make Energy Drain not drain all of your enegy but just a part, 50% of energy or just set amount of 50 for example. Same goes to shields but the set amount should be bigger.

[MadKirby]

Whoops, not sure is this is the right section. Didnt see where I can choose one...

[Naftal]

DE should make an "Easy" difficulty and remove everything that's remotely difficult from that so people who don't like those things can play without.

[TheErebus.]

Energy drain adds challenge. 

There is a topic in the forums that basically stats: "We want the enemies to be challenging but not so much that the tenno become nothing more than doormats to them."

Even with 50% of it remaining, they still have 2 or more powers still available which gain a huge advantage.

[Aver]

the only form of energy drain i dont like are mag aura's. the rest are pretty decent, even if they could be worked on  a bit.

Edited July 1, 2014 by Aver

[SIDESTRE4M]

No offense, but try another boss and if energy drain is still a problem, train your positioning and problemsolving without abilities. Use softcover, run arround, even retreat.

[yarash2110]

there is nothing good about magnetic procs in any aspect, they are frustrating and unavoidable 90% of the time, they force the players to use rhinos in higher levels or just not squishy frames in general and they really limit the play style and fun untill you get more energy, it should be something like 33.3% less energy or something instead of completly removing energy for 8 seconds and reducing shields... it's OP and ruins the game 

[SoulDust]

game is already easy, less thread more skill

[emaralez87]

there is difference between to force player use another tactic and to spur player for this. energy drain forcing to not use abilities, but there should be mechanic what makes using of abilities ineffective, but not impossible. but I still don't think what energy drain is OP - it's ok :)

[DecapitatingJim]

DE should make an "Easy" difficulty and remove everything that's remotely difficult from that so people who don't like those things can play without.

I would bet my left testicle people would still complain it's too hard.

 

To the OP: Maybe try change tactics? I didn't even know the Hyena's could energy drain, and I've fought all of them at least once. Energy drain in general is normally fine, I rarely get hit by it and usually when I do, it's my own fault. Last time I got hit by a drain is because I charged at an mag exi. And before people say stop using l33t gear and stuff: My main weapon is a Braton and I generally play a support frame. 

[MagPrime]

Pick up energy restores.  Energy drain adds difficulty to an otherwise easy game, please don't take it out.

[Taikaponi]

Play low-level missions then. If you can't do the high-level stuff, it is obvious that you should be doing some low-level missions. Don't call the enemies OP because your gear is bad.

 

If you think Hyena Pack is OP, you want to check out my solo on Nightmare mode video for a bit of help

Edited July 1, 2014 by Taikaponi

[0Pinger]

take rhino/excal and stomp or blind then test your weapon

[(PSN)jenax002]

there is nothing good about magnetic procs in any aspect, they are frustrating and unavoidable 90% of the time, they force the players to use rhinos in higher levels or just not squishy frames in general and they really limit the play style and fun untill you get more energy, it should be something like 33.3% less energy or something instead of completly removing energy for 8 seconds and reducing shields... it's OP and ruins the game 

 

There is absolutely NO rhino required (if you want you can but its NOT REQUIRED) to kill the hyenas. have you even killed them ????  I have taken Loki, Excalibur, Nyx, Nova and Vauban (vauban is definitely the easiest one). Atleast Energy drain adds a challenge. The game is already easy as it is. Its just funny how people are so much used to one-shotting bosses that whenever they see a challenge, they complain

 

 

NOTE: - For those who are complaining about energy drain, do you guys know that there are Energy Restores in the game which are dirty cheap to make and even cheaper to use. So, take those and someone please lock this thread

Edited July 1, 2014 by (PS4)jenax002

[Khranitel]

Energy drain is not OP.

Lack of proper telegraph for such enemy units is OP.

[RealPandemonium]

Build some energy restores in your foundry.  Boom, your energy returns. 

[Azawarau]

DE should make an "Easy" difficulty and remove everything that's remotely difficult from that so people who don't like those things can play without.

Cut drop chance to 1/4th and call it a deal

 

@OP

 

If energy drain is a big issue that way you might want to take some time on valkyr or trinity and get used to gunplay

 

Youll improve greatly when you arent totally dependent on your powers

[SIDESTRE4M]

^

This post alone should be made a sticky...

[ExplodingStars]

Energy drain is not OP.

Lack of proper telegraph for such enemy units is OP.

Agreed, an energy drain that is activated randomly in certain enemy's repertoire is somehow "Challenging"