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Too Much Love To Rhino And Less Love To Such Frames As Saryn,trinity....

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From start I really like Rhino he's not my favourite frame but really he has too much love form DE... Why I think so ?

First of all rhino has everything: 1)Mobility(prime version adds speed, helmet adds speed ,1 skill charge mobility too) 2)Damage (4 skill tears through lvl 40-50 lol and even in late game it is beast , also 3 skill adds a very good chunk of dmg)

3) Defence (2 skill) 4) AoE (4 skill) 

So, basically Rhino has everything and is basically the best frame (And it's the reason why everyone play him). While other frames such as Saryn (which is not popular at all, and doesn't have dmg or mobility..) And trinity which is a support ,which needs to be totally over made.. But really DE you didn't even put the immortal skin on her for sale while all others (old frames) have wtf ?

Another example is Ember: 1)Normal damage (4skill, 2 skill, 1 skill) 2) NO DEFENCE!!!! (maybe only the 2 skill stun lol) 3) Mobility kinda ok 4) AoE (4 skill..is okey)

Now we take another frame Banshee: 1)Mobility 2) NO DEFENCE 3)NO DAMAGE 4) GOOD AoE. But the problem with her is that you cant even solo or survive long with her cause she doesn't have any defence at all...

                                                                                                                        Sorry, for my English (if any mistakes). But I just want to know your thoughts ,about how Rhino is op and if he needs some kind of nerf (or something)

 

 

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ShioriShi

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All frames are OP if used properly. Rhino however is a very forgiving frame, and does not take as much skill to use as some of the others.

Thats not to say some of the other frames are a bit lack luster at times, but they are far from horrid. Lack of defense don't make a frame bad it just means you need to actualy use cover, and not tank everything head on,

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Nyx nneds a change in second skill completelly. And a little buff in first skill that's all she needs. Excalibur hmm maybe only 4 skill. And saryn hah total over make of skills especially first, fourth,and third. And trinity I cant even paint her normally cause the model is kinda outdated I think...

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Rhino doesn't have everything. He isn't the best frame.

 

I prefer my Zephyr to my Rhino. More mobile. Plenty of CC.

I prefer Ember over Rhino, too. She does more damage. She has a radial stun. She's there for damage, not to be a CC tank.

I also, funnily enough, prefer Valkyr over Rhino. Invincibility is way more forgiving than just being tanky.

 

Rhino is an easy, forgiving frame. He is not the best. He does well in multiple areas, he has slight mobility, damage and CC.

But Zephyr is more mobile, an provides CC. Volt and Ember do more damage but aren't as tanky. Frost (arguably) and Hydroid have more CC, but less mobility.

 

Fun fact; preference is a thing.

 

 

Even without those he stands perfectly on defence 4 :60 mins... And does damage and has survivability

 

So does my Valkyr. So does my Hydroid.  So does my Volt.

 

I understand what you want to say but ember lol... She has a ult in which ou have to come to enemy to damage him, but she cant even come to them because they demolish her in 5 seconds

Then you're playing wrong.

If you're getting to the point where you can't kill things with your fourth ability because you're dying, you're doing something wrong.

 

Saryn , Nyx and Excal need a look fast

Nyx needs work on Psychic Bolts and Mind Control needs some serious fixing (breaks for the mission duration if the enemy dies).

 

Don't forget Oberon. He needs love too.

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Yes zephyr can be like rhino tooo in fact I play her mostly too haha :DDD But realy that unforgivness of rhino is too big..... And because of that he is one of the popular frames in game.. Where players(noobs) Just take iron skin and then stomp 24/7. Ember hmmm you know what I don't like about her is the damage actually. If we take nova which ults and instant blows enemies while they even cant react and ember which does damage overtime... My decision was to add a bit of survivability to her for example I thought about making her third skill the same but the only thing with it is that it eats bullets, and when you shoot from it it increases damage or maybe 100 percent fire proc... Because really all frames basically have some sort of defence skill while only this frames don't have it (trinity saryn doesn't count)

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Okay ,but in 60 min he will out damage you because that third skill really adds a lot of dmg.. So rhino is one of those frames who has everything he can be tank support and even damage dealer...

He won't out-damage you, because if he's buffing himself, he's probably buffing you too.

 

He's a tank, with damage. That's his role. It even says so in his description.

But in the three or four areas he covers, there will always be another frame that completely outshines him.

 

A Rhino is an all-rounder. That means at its absolute peak, it will not be better than other frames at their absolute peak that were built for one thing. Rhino is built for three things. 

-A well-built Rhino won't outdamage or out-cc a well-built Volt.

 -It will not be more mobile than a well-built Zephyr, or any Zephyr.

  -It will not CC more than a well-built Vauban.

   -Sometimes, it won't even live more than a well-built Valkyr in Hysteria.

 

Even Hydroid has a few over on Rhino. He can CC in a MASSIVE area, deal a load of damage, get around quickly (albeit in a manner similar to Rhino) and also make himself untargetable and invincible.

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I wonder why Rhino players immediately use Iron Skin before we even activate the alarm on Apollodorus. I tend to use Roar more often than Iron Skin, I use it only for emergencies or if I can't revive a player in time before I die myself in the middle of a powerful mob of high level enemies. I don't use it at the start of every game like everyother Rhino player does, I was even asked why I don't activate Iron Skin.

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Before it cost less, didn't put enemies into slomo in mid air, and rhino roar is rhinos least used ability.. 

I think roar is a bit underrated. It buffs by a surprising amount, and is absolutely insane when used with Valkyr's Warcry. 

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I think roar is a bit underrated. It buffs by a surprising amount, and is absolutely insane when used with Valkyr's Warcry. 

Team of double rhino, banshee and nova for 50x damage was a thing for a while. Roar stacks, so when you play as 4 rhinos and roar each other you can get ludicrous damage.

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