10twenty4 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 If the whole point of removing stats from the helmets was to move away from having cosmetics that affected gameplay, then why do we still have these holdovers from an earlier time? They provide a direct advantage to older players. The only way to obtain them is to purchase them from other players. But that requires obtaining platinum. These arcane helms are the closest thing to being pay-to-win in the game currently, and I don't understand why you think that's acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxylol Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 cuz people spent time and money to obtain them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlraistlx Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 They're there so there was less butthurt player at the momento of the retirement. And to be fair with those who used plat to get the helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappatalist Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) Nowhere in the game does it say that you need to purchase Arcane Helmets with Platinum. I never did. I did Alerts. I have around 14 of them. Edited July 4, 2014 by Kappatalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtexas Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 How the heck is that anywhere near pay 2 win? The stat changes are very small and don't provide a distinct advantage over others. So that other persons Saryn can run just a bit faster because they have arcane hemlock. Thats not a big deal. I do agree that DE did it in a stupid way, they should have added a costume helmet slot, would have made a ton more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarille Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Because "But DE, I spent time and/or money obtaining these helmets purely for statistical gains!!" Essentially, butthurt players didn't want to have their investments for cosmetic items be "Worthless", despite the fact they still function as cosmetic items and were intended to be cosmetic items first and foremost and stat gains being a secondary aspect to it. The keeping of the arcane helmets makes no sense to me as removing them completely would be on par with the whole "No refunds of Potatoes and Forma when a weapon/frame is rebalanced or primes are added rendering non-primes obsolete" thing that people also complain about having time and/or platinum spent becoming "Worthless" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundervision Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exo594 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Oh my god, this is just like all those other idiots crying about Excal Prime, Skana Prime, and Lato Prime, stuff that's only the SECOND weakest gear in the game. Get over it. They're grandfathered items. It's just like Primed/charged Chamber. Sucks to not have one, but you can survive without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeAura Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Bad decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 "grandfathered" look it up ppl can cry all they want, but its just a bunch of pointless whiny QQ just like if i started playing PoE or Blacklight and started QQ'n all over there forums becuz ppl have stuff that i missed becuz i never played those games during their CB's or whatevs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberpaw Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 If the whole point of removing stats from the helmets was to move away from having cosmetics that affected gameplay, then why do we still have these holdovers from an earlier time? They provide a direct advantage to older players. The only way to obtain them is to purchase them from other players. But that requires obtaining platinum. These arcane helms are the closest thing to being pay-to-win in the game currently, and I don't understand why you think that's acceptable. the arcane is for beta testers who were here from early on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)StoneRevolver Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Stop whining. You will not get my Arcane helmets taken from me. They are useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aigloblam Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Nowhere in the game does it say that you need to purchase Arcane Helmets with Platinum. I never did. I did Alerts. I have around 14 of them. ^ This. I have at least two extras of every Arcane in the game, and not a single one was bought with Plat. That is about as far from a Pay2Win as you can get. Even now, you can buy them with plat, but DE doesn't earn any extra with that, its using the plat that is already in circulation. Oh my god, this is just like all those other idiots crying about Excal Prime, Skana Prime, and Lato Prime, stuff that's only the SECOND weakest gear in the game. Get over it. They're grandfathered items. It's just like Primed/charged Chamber. Sucks to not have one, but you can survive without it. It Irks me that i can never get that stuff...but i'm not going to complain about it. I didnt have the money at the time, so i missed out. That happens in life and we should just get over it. If there is a way in the future to get some of the founder stuff, Yeah i'll get it...but honestly i hope it doesnt happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeAura Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 ^ This. I have at least two extras of every Arcane in the game, and not a single one was bought with Plat. That is about as far from a Pay2Win as you can get. Even now, you can buy them with plat, but DE doesn't earn any extra with that, its using the plat that is already in circulation. Yes they can earn extra off that? The helmets are in circulation, but anyone can go buy 100 platinum and then use it to trade for a helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vunie Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 because we payed for them and we are not going to lose them just because you don't like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlraistlx Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 It Irks me that i can never get that stuff...but i'm not going to complain about it. I didnt have the money at the time, so i missed out. That happens in life and we should just get over it. If there is a way in the future to get some of the founder stuff, Yeah i'll get it...but honestly i hope it doesnt happen. +1 I couldn't get none of the Vandal weapons but I'm against they comming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aigloblam Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Yes they can earn extra off that? The helmets are in circulation, but anyone can go buy 100 platinum and then use it to trade for a helmet. Sure if they felt like it, But they could just as easily do that for anything else in the market. The helmets provide no more plat for DE than the random Corrupted mods that drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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