Lambsteak Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wow, so these are the new players ? Constructive, isn't it ? I feel sorry for you if you can't see how constructive this topic is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddycrusher Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 we dont care abt noobs deal with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ropefish- Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 most of you have proved his point, there is not much else to say word to you OP ignore the elitists and just go with your friends, i know what its like so dont worry okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathinside Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 thanks for the wise words So now "you"(and by you I mean the community of people like you) think that closed net is wise? That friendlist and clan is wise? What a wagon... Need to share keys? Need a Nekros for farm? Need an alert taxi? Sure, contact clan. But if you will go clan-only for every single mission, I'd personally send you right there. What did that group do to you? Did they steal your item? Ruin your mission? Nothing that can't be helped by you. Take another coop pve game - *ayday 2. A place where you can't talk to people in chat channel, where communication is limited to rather unnoticeable chat window. Where the mission is ten times harder than hardest stealth\assault mission of Warfarm. Where a person can be kicked at the whim of the host. Where a random guy can enter, hax-ruin your game or just fail your stealth and leave, no repercussions whatsoever. THAT is a bad community. THAT is where closed net is wise. To resort to friends in a game about casual farm - is to sink so low you can't see the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 And should we have to wait 15 mins at extraction because one guy is going to open every container and explore every room? Hell no! If you cannot keep up with the team, too bad. Tho, it wasnt really nice from the guys to extract if you asked them nicely. His point isn't that fast people should be forced to wait, his point is that slower people shouldn't be forced to leave. I agree. As per soon-to-be-canon, every Tenno operative has their own shuttle so there is no reason why you couldn't stay in the mission and hunt up loot if you wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupf4 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 thats why i run solo all day, every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey1779 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The only force quit missions i know of are keyed missions if the key holder aborts the mission otherwise you would get a 1 minute extraction timer and the message across your screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambsteak Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 You judge the entire community based on the behaviour of ...maybe 3 players? don't worry , the way this topic is being responded is giving me quite a good picture of what I'm dealing with here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambsteak Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 His point isn't that fast people should be forced to wait, his point is that slower people shouldn't be forced to leave. I agree. As per soon-to-be-canon, every Tenno operative has their own shuttle so there is no reason why you couldn't stay in the mission and hunt up loot if you wanted to. thanks a lot! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LascarCapable Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Play with friends. Playing with random people oftenly results in bad games. You don't have friends ? Try to get some, it's not that hard as long as you're not a jackass. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Play with friends. Playing with random people oftenly results in bad games. You don't have friends ? Try to get some, it's not that hard as long as you're not a jackass. :p 'Try to get some, it's not that hard'. Sounds like a walk in the park. Edited July 8, 2014 by Renegade343 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiegraf Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) You,re bound to run into some people who rushes the hell out of missions, which is kind of sad as they don't pay attention to whom is actually in their team to begin with, especially on the earlier planets. Which, in this case, might include a new(er) player who hasn't yet gotten the grasp of the game yet or prefers to play the mission thoroughly. As for quality of player attitude, it's an often given advice to run missions preferably with friends or clanmates. Going with PuGs is pretty much forfeiting your expectations for literal decency within your group. Then again, that holds true in any game where you can randomly be matchmade so really, Warframe doesn't really differ there. But don't worry, at times, you'll be paired up with decent people who are actually out there to help their team more than helping themselves. Edited July 8, 2014 by Wiegraf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambsteak Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Play with friends. Playing with random people oftenly results in bad games. You don't have friends ? Try to get some, it's not that hard as long as you're not a jackass. :p I love to play with random people and meet new players. That's an option that doesn't need to result in a bad experience. You can design a game to prevent such bad behavior , for example as Momaw nicely suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazools Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Play with friends. Playing with random people oftenly results in bad games. You don't have friends ? Try to get some, it's not that hard as long as you're not a jackass. :p That^. Its true... find and make some friends, join or create a active clan, thats the best way to prevent being teamed up with players that u may dislike in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDRLOz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Play with friends. Playing with random people oftenly results in bad games. You don't have friends ? Try to get some, it's not that hard as long as you're not a jackass. :p Very true. thats why i run solo all day, every day Also true. So advise to OP, as most people have stated, is play with friends and solo if you want to not get a negative experience. When playing public you risk getting people rush or not consider the whole team. Just a risk we all must live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khranitel Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) I love to play with random people and meet new players. That's an option that doesn't need to result in a bad experience. You can design a game to prevent such bad behavior , for example as Momaw nicely suggested. And if his suggestion will be implemented, we will have a situation, in which when host extracts, everybody else will get a nice little host migration, with a perspective of losing everything they earned this mission, if their connection with new host will be impossible to establish. That is not this game issue, but rather player's internet thing. If you're trying to talk about bad design, try to learn some ropes beforehand. Your posts here shows me that you're too fast to jump to conclusions and a little more selfish and self-entitled than you need to be to feel yourself comfortable in any coop game, not only this one. Try LoL. Or DotA. Or BF. Or any other popular online game. After that, we'll talk about this community :) Edited July 8, 2014 by Khranitel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) I love to play with random people and meet new players. That's an option that doesn't need to result in a bad experience. You can design a game to prevent such bad behavior , for example as Momaw nicely suggested. That suggestion however, does not prevent that bad behavior at all. It just makes it so you do not feel the effects of them leaving. It will only result in people giving even less attention to their team mates because they can extract without them. Then you are just better off running solo. EDIT: and as Khranitel above me said, host migrations. So have fun with the bad hosts you get after your real host leaves. (if you do not get kicked out because the computer/internet of the new host can not handle it) Edited July 8, 2014 by Airwolfen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammaion Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Not all of the community is like that. You are generalizing. Public games are pretty awful in general. Try joining a clan or getting some friends and do matches with them. It makes a hell of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambsteak Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 That suggestion however, does not prevent that bad behavior at all. It just makes it so you do not feel the effects of them leaving. It will only result in people giving even less attention to their team mates because they can extract without them. Then you are just better off running solo. EDIT: and as Khranitel above me said, host migrations. So have fun with the bad hosts you get after your real host leaves. (if you do not get kicked out because the computer/internet of the new host can not handle it) They won't give less crap about the other players than they already are. No it doesn't prevent bad behavior, but you wont have to deal with it if there is any. And if his suggestion will be implemented, we will have a situation, in which when host extracts, everybody else will get a nice little host migration, with a perspective of losing everything they earned this mission, if their connection with new host will be impossible to establish. That is not this game issue, but rather player's internet thing. If you're trying to talk about bad design, try to learn some ropes beforehand. Your posts here shows me that you're too fast to jump to conclusions and a little more selfish and self-entitled than you need to be to feel yourself comfortable in any coop game, not only this one. Try LoL. Or DotA. Or BF. Or any other popular online game. After that, we'll talk about this community :) As for host migrations and all its disconnections: This is not an issue we should take as granted. If every connection fails, at least you should be able to host yourself. It's easy to blame a single person for his difficulties in a game. Though once it occurs to a larger amount of people, things stand in a completely different light. I'd be surprised to see that I am the only one having this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubukin Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 It's hard to keep up as a newbie if everyone copter-rushes the hell out of every mission. sorry, but just learn to do it asap. it's not hard and you can do it with an unmodded skana. it'll save you a lot of annoyances later on. and for OP, well, it wont be the last papaya you stumble over, so dont worry too much over spilt milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire_Ashes Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 OP, Most of the community is very nice, unfortunately you just got paired with some elitists. I hope for the best Warframe experience for you. Just a side note. Joining a small clan or alliance with a microphone helps a lot with the fun-factor. People who care about each other in this game is what keeps me playing. Good luck Tenno. -Crimson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Judging a whole Community by the actions of just 2 people. Such community Much tears wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srafa Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) What this breaks down to is people looking for speed runs. at witch point i just start going slower and getting all the loot i can. and kill every enemy i can find. i do, do speed runs. but with a private group of my clan members. how it should be in my opinion. Edited July 8, 2014 by Srafa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriticalVoid1 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Look friend, this is the internet. You shouldn't expect anything more than entitlement and excessive swearing/namecalling. If you do, you only court disappointment and frustration. Find the people that stand out to you and that you enjoy running with then forget about the rest. But don't judge an entire community on the actions or words of a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Aurvid Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Well, I usually go with the group, if they seem new to the game I slow down so they can do their (noob) stuff and close to rez them... A lot. I have no problem with ppl exploring. If they are veterans more than likely they wont see me for the duration of the game. Everyone is on its own. But thats just me... Edited July 8, 2014 by (PS4)Aurvid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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