KairaSilvermist Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I actually gave someone a 5P mod for an AUra not evne worth 1 P, just to give it to someone that wanted it. Spent 2 trades "losing" plat to help a friend. "ooooh wasn't 20 Plat, someone call the G3, harvester AND Stalker on them" Seriously, look at Team Fortress 2, as a specific example, we'll use the price of Keys, no? In trading, once upon a time, Keys were worth 4.66 Refined Metal each. as time went on, less and less people were selling keys, and more and more people were after the lower supply, so prises started to rise. I know someone, during those events that paid money and bought 50 keys, and sold them for 2 Refined each, to help out the market. The price went down about 1 Refined for a while. What you're proposing is to set a Floor, to prevent something like this for happeneing. WHy? SO *YOU* can make more Platinum selling garbage that, if you can't sell, no one wants for that price. It's just like the Materials in Spiral Knights. Beast Fangs STILL sell very high, even though they're a REALLY low-level material, BECAUSE they're used in a lot of popular item sets.There's crafting items of higher tiers that people won't even pay the price of ONE beast fang for. Rather than complain that DE needs to step in and regulate trade, like EA would probably do if they had a game with trading, I say, let them act more likve Valve/3-Rings. Leave it hands-off, the more trading happens, the more people are inclined to purchaes platinum with money for that trading. I know that I plan to purchase some for trading eventually, even if it's just to trade for a bit. If you're having issues selling, BECOME one of uis "Blebian scubs" that are selling for 5P, you have limited trades anyway, and regardless, you'll have *MORE* plat after the sell than BEFORE it, no? TL;DR: Trading is fine as-is, Valve and 3-Rings use similar trading systems, it does promote purcahsing platinum, and We need more of a refined trading system, like Steam Trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlchemistMute Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 "Fast food restaurants are a waste as well. They often make less than a dollar of profit, how can they keep from going bankrupt?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 OP is long gone, but 6 pages later the hate train is still going strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 OP is long gone, but 6 pages later the hate train is still going strong He posted on page 5, which is not too long ago from now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAuron Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 OP is long gone, but 6 pages later the hate train is still going strong ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verre Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) What if he is somewhat involved with PWE?What if.. he was sent here to troll us? Edited July 10, 2014 by Verre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furyion Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 he is new they are new ..remember before trade was just a rumour a thought. Forums where full of begging de,,..now its allowed..its a privledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmbedFire Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Yeah, this game always needed some trade market and we have it, thanks 2 devs :) Selling something for 5 plat is good business, lol 3x5 = free 2 weapon slots, it's really handy for F2P gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)youngn0121 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 OP is long gone, but 6 pages later the hate train is still going strong I was busy making trades. I figure at this rate I'll be able to buy a color pack next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAuron Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Seems like a waste of a trade to me but I'm not cheap, I buy platinum for formas, catalyts and cosmetics Not worth the time imo So you give away free stuff that's worth 5 plat or less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)youngn0121 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 So you give away free stuff that's worth 5 plat or less? If you actually read the thread I stated that I do give items away to clan mates. That being said, I'm not the salvation army army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 money from work this one hit me right in the gut no one wants to hire me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabaxus Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Why do you even suggest a trade floor? When I had less trades, if there were trades that weren't worth 20p of business or more, I just chose not to make them. Now since I have more trades, I can do more of the nickel and dime trades. If you want to have a self-imposed trade floor by all means knock yourself out, but that doesn't mean you should have in any right the ability to take away other players' rights to do small trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)youngn0121 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Why do you even suggest a trade floor? When I had less trades, if there were trades that weren't worth 20p of business or more, I just chose not to make them. Now since I have more trades, I can do more of the nickel and dime trades. If you want to have a self-imposed trade floor by all means knock yourself out, but that doesn't mean you should have in any right the ability to take away other players' rights to do small trades. You seem to be the type of player that will spam "wtb -insert new hot weapon / frame- for 25p" for hours and days instead of actually farming or paying what is worth at the time Like most people Itt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAuron Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) If you actually read the thread..... Edited July 10, 2014 by SirAuron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 You seem to be the type of player that will spam "wtb -insert new hot weapon / frame- for 25p" for hours and days instead of actually farming or paying what is worth at the time Like most people Itt. And you seem to be the type of player who sells junk mods and parts for grossly inflated prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)youngn0121 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 If you actually read the thread I stated that I do give items away to clan mates. I Lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)youngn0121 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 And you seem to be the type of player who sells junk mods and parts for grossly inflated prices. I don't sell much if at all. I don't need the plat, I'd rather transmute or sell for creds. Brb going to dojo host migration haggling and waiting at the trade window just made 5p for 10 minutes of my time Brb... No thx. You're better off looking for pennies on the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)YankeeClippah Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 You aren't going to steal my customer because a 5p trade isn't worth my time or anyone else's... Trade needs a price floor, period no price floor if anything it need a ceiling, you "sellers" are con artists to say the least. I get it if someone is willing to pay 200p for a loki prime systems then its their stupidity but look what patience can get you, I got a cicero set yesterday for 20 plat. they were 1200 a few weeks ago. Same goes for Rhino Prime and all other stuff in the game, people feel this need to have everything the second it comes out and they end up overpaying for a mediocore product then regret it once people start paying half of what they paid for it. Trade in general in this game needs regulation, set prices for all mods, parts and everything to balance the terrible in game economy and to eliminate some of the terrible terrible sellers that this community has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I don't sell much if at all. I don't need the plat, I'd rather transmute or sell for creds. Brb going to dojo host migration haggling and waiting at the trade window just made 5p for 10 minutes of my time Brb... No thx. You're better off looking for pennies on the ground Well I think you've just had bad experiences with the trade system and don't grasp the concept of saving. If you've noticed, the trade chat is available to view in your dojo, so you can stand right next to your trading post, make a deal, invite the person and be done in under a minute. Putting in a price floor would be a slap in the face to players who don't have money to spend on platinum because it would discourage trading on everything but big-ticket items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I don't sell much if at all. I don't need the plat, I'd rather transmute or sell for creds. Brb going to dojo host migration haggling and waiting at the trade window just made 5p for 10 minutes of my time Brb... No thx. You're better off looking for pennies on the ground If you're not buying/selling things at these cheap prices, why do you care if other people do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorrTerek Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 That being said, I'm not the salvation army army Perhaps not, but you could still be the Salvation Army Navy. Or the Air Force, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)youngn0121 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) no price floor if anything it need a ceiling, you "sellers" are con artists to say the least. I get it if someone is willing to pay 200p for a loki prime systems then its their stupidity but look what patience can get you, I got a cicero set yesterday for 20 plat. they were 1200 a few weeks ago. Same goes for Rhino Prime and all other stuff in the game, people feel this need to have everything the second it comes out and they end up overpaying for a mediocore product then regret it once people start paying half of what they paid for it. Trade in general in this game needs regulation, set prices for all mods, parts and everything to balance the terrible in game economy and to eliminate some of the terrible terrible sellers that this community has. So patience is a synonym for being cheap... Lol at the thought of wasting hours trying to low ball people instead of instead of adding an reasonable offer and going on about your day I wanted critical delay and I didn't want to do the stupid key thing in the derelicts so I offered 50p and and got offers immediately I should've offered 5p for it then spammed trade chat for a few days while I'm waiting on the dojo with the window open doing exactly nothing... Edited July 10, 2014 by (PS4)youngn0121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)youngn0121 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Well I think you've just had bad experiences with the trade system and don't grasp the concept of saving. If you've noticed, the trade chat is available to view in your dojo, so you can stand right next to your trading post, make a deal, invite the person and be done in under a minute. Putting in a price floor would be a slap in the face to players who don't have money to spend on platinum because it would discourage trading on everything but big-ticket items. Its not just that, cheap doesn't always equal good. This bottom feeder attitude is what's wrong with people now and days. Not talking about you specifically just speaking in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAuron Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Well, other games have made it easy to pawn cheap crap off especially Guild Wars 2 where you can spawn off your items instantly to bidding players without the need to contact them. Seems your issue is about laziness. the fact that you must get invited to Dojo, initiate trade, repeat over and over going through 2 login screens and potentially more due to connection issues, etc. All time consuming and energy wasting. or do i have to read the thread to find out how you truly feel? Because you know how i feel about reading this damn thread. 7 pages...pft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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