I'd Like To See Vor's Chances Of Appearing Adjusted...

[magusat999]

I'm so tired of seeing Vor. I mean EVERY TIME I go to the freaking Void - is it necessary to see him EVERY TIME? I mean... really - EVERY TIME? REALLY? Come on - it has to be better than this. Surely the game can be more intelligent than to keep sending him to players who have seen him a hundred times and don't need what he drops.

 

Now I'm sure there are people who enjoy seeing him. There are those of you who need / want what he has. There are some people who just don't have much experience or whatever so this encounter is "fun" and fresh. But I am speaking as someone who doesn't need what he drops, doesn't need the encounter and would just like to get on with the mission at hand and move on.

 

I think that Vor encounters need to be tweaked so that they still happen WHEN APPROPRIATE. At the same time several parts of it should be changed.

 

1) He should only target the marked player. Vor should not come in and start killing off everyone in the squad. He should focus on the marked player and the fight should begin and end with his focus on the marked player. If the marked player dies he should go away, like the Stalker does - not hang around until someone kills him or he kills everyone off. He should be expected to defend himself if attacked, yes - but not continue to attack the unmarked player until he or she is dead!

 

2) The mission should be suspended until the business with Vor is done. It isn't fair to have Vor, his guards and the mission enemies all rolling in at the same time. We should be able to fairly fight off Vor, without the mission interrupting or being in jeopardy.

 

3) Vor should only show up one time in a mission, regardless of the number of marked people in the squad. Its irritating enough that we have to see him ONCE, why twice or three times? YES, people have reported having to fight him multiple times, before you post about it not happening to you... lucky sucker.

 

4) Vor's overall chances of showing up should be dialed WAY DOWN. No it should not be higher because there are 4 marked people. That is unfair because you HAVE TO go to Interception to get the keys! That means there is practically no way to avoid being marked if you want to go to the Void! So, the odds should not get higher per player because of the inevitability that they have all been to Interceptions to get there. The overall stat (chances) of Vor showing up should be cut down to one in five visits to the Void. Currently I think its above 100%. The frequency should be greater than the Stalker - but not so great that we end up seeing him every other time we do a Void mission.

 

5) Vor's chances to appear should dramatically drop off once people acquire his drops. I know people want the Cicero mods - but how many do you really need??? Do you need so many that you want to encounter him every visit to the Void??? High experience with Vor should lower your chances of seeing him - maybe he is scared of you?

 

6) Players who have killed Vor a number of times, or in an easier manner, should see Vor less. Say you have a person on your squad who has Vor's number and has killed him 10 times with 2-3 shots. The game should recognize the "Vor killer" and lower the encounter chance accordingly. Likewise if you have a person in your squad who has killed Vor 500 times, the game should recognize this type of Vor "mastery" and lower the chances of his rusty buns showing up as well.

 

If you all have suggestions to add, enhance or edit I'd welcome them (as long as you aren't getting snarky or troll-like). I'm sure there are ideas that can make this encounter better without losing the challenge aspect.

 

[(PSN)kiddplay13]

God i was hoping i wasn't the only one, after you have all the Mods he becomes a nuisance. I made a similar thread but just got flamed for it.

[Angius]

What's wrong with Vor Prime showing up in T4s? it's not like he's hard to kill or something... Just shoot his belly and avoid the light pilalrs and you'll be ok. You can even stomp him to slow him down, he has no dispell, you can use all of your abilities against him.

[vaugahn]

Well vor doesn't use deathmarks, he just has a percent chance of appearing every mission. He also doesn't have guards that I know of.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to him spawning less in interception and defense, but his spawns should stay the same for survival and exterminate.

[RoboDoge]

I am ok with his spawn, as he is easy to kill if you are sporting decent equipment.

[(PSN)kiddplay13]

I am ok with his spawn, as he is easy to kill if you are sporting Excaliber or Mag.

Fixed.

[RoboDoge]

Fixed.

Anything with decent crowdcontrol can kill him. People cannot use frames properly and then they think that he is hard.

 

 

Banshee and Nyx are the best ones against him, and i wont say why. People should figure that by themslef or keep crying about him.

[vaugahn]

Fixed.

 

I think you meant Nyx and Vauban

[magusat999]

Wel its not about how easy or hard it is to kill him (Nyx with a few Absorbs can take him out easily) its about him appearing too much and breaking the flow of the game for people who dont need to see him for any reason. They need to tone it down some, everybody isn't looking to fight Vor every time they visit the Void, no matter if they can handle him or not. I don't think the Survival exception is appropriate either - one time per mission, including Survival - ESPECIALLY Survival. But remember I'm talking about people who don't need to have his visits, not "in general".

[vaugahn]

Wel its not about how easy or hard it is to kill him (Nyx with a few Absorbs can take him out easily) its about him appearing too much and breaking the flow of the game for people who dont need to see him for any reason. They need to tone it down some, everybody isn't looking to fight Vor every time they visit the Void, no matter if they can handle him or not. I don't think the Survival exception is appropriate either - one time per mission, including Survival - ESPECIALLY Survival. But remember I'm talking about people who don't need to have his visits, not "in general".

 

I like him appearing a bunch in survival, that's the mode he works best in. If you don't want to see him, don't play T4?

[sneakatone]

its what ever, free orokin cell

[XandoCalrissian]

He really isn't hard if you bother to prepare for T4 in the first place.

 

I only died to him once, and that was my first encounter with him while also using good ol' squishy Ember.

[(PSN)kiddplay13]

I like him appearing a bunch in survival, that's the mode he works best in. If you don't want to see him, don't play T4

Are you serious?

[NoggDog117]

Vorrupted does not have a 100% spawn chance, you can go through one of the non-endless T4's without seeing him at all. The problem with the endless T4's is that he has more chances of spawning, hence why people think he has a 100% chance to spawn.

 

EDIT: Don't believe me? Remember Steve's Prime Time? Steve went through a T4E without a Vorrupted spawn.

Edited July 14, 2014 by NoggDog117

[khazlol]

i think hes supposed to be part of the T4 challenge gaiz :D:D:D

[XandoCalrissian]

Vorrupted does not have a 100% spawn chance, you can go through one of the non-endless T4's without seeing him at all. The problem with the endless T4's is that he has more chances of spawning, hence why people think he has a 100% chance to spawn.

He always spawns after a max of ten or so minutes, so you may not be seeing him in captures and such because you're beating them before he shows up.

[Valkyrie9000]

No.

Vor should have a 100% chance.

He's a fun assassin-like boss that brings actual challenge to a T4 void.

Can't fight him? You shouldn't be in T4 Voids.

[(PSN)Nighthawk_0430]

'People have REPORTED seeing him multiple times' key word there, not a single proof video has come out showing him appearing more than once. As for the rest of your points, I'm happy with how he is. He's not a factor in Exterminate or Capture unless he shows up really early, and MD has the down times between terminals when he can show up. He's a fun challenge in this game, especially with the other enemies/leaders (not realizing a guardian ex imps has spawned can be your downfall). Saying this as someone who doesn't need his drops anymore, LEAVE HIM AS HE IS

[magusat999]

'People have REPORTED seeing him multiple times' key word there, not a single proof video has come out showing him appearing more than once. As for the rest of your points, I'm happy with how he is. He's not a factor in Exterminate or Capture unless he shows up really early, and MD has the down times between terminals when he can show up. He's a fun challenge in this game, especially with the other enemies/leaders (not realizing a guardian ex imps has spawned can be your downfall). Saying this as someone who doesn't need his drops anymore, LEAVE HIM AS HE IS

Got stuck on one point? Does't make what you say any more valid. DO you have PROOF VIDEOS or a factual promise written by DE that he does not and will not spawn more than once? We are on the honor system here, most people do not come to forums making posts with lies in them (Im sure if I were lying DE would have a conversation with me about it). NOTHING suggest that there is a limit as to how many times he will spawn in a mission. I have had personal experience with him spawning multiple times (once he spawn again on our way to extraction... during the air supply is out part). Accusing people of making up stuff does not help the conversation and does not make your point in any way. Say something valid to YOUR point, don't try to invalidate someone else because you really do not know - were you there? NO. So your testimony is invalid.

 

Its funny to e how people will say - I never heard of that, or it didn't happen to me; as if that is proof for their argument. If it didn't happen to you then perhaps you are just inexperienced, lucky or maybe... it just hasn't happened to you. That does not mean it didn't happen to someone else (that's some flawed logic if your conclusion is based on that....). And if your so paranoid that every time you hear something that hasn't been your experience you regard it as something that could never had really happened - well why even go outside? Stay indoors and keep the lights off... someone is out to get you!

 

Anyways, what would have been better than being accusatory is to add that an exception for people like you could be included in the change. I thought I already covered that - maybe it was tl;dr for you. Maybe they can add a Vr's Challenge area for people who just can't stand not to see him - instead of him invading the Void like he is now. You can CHOOSE to fight Vor, if he shows up - or you can choose the same mission WITHOUT his crusty butt. Kind of like Nightmare mode. 

 

I'm looking to make it better FOR EVERYBODY. Can you come up with a positive contribution that satisfies both players like you AND other players? Or are your comment purely flaming, trolling and self-centered? (I don't care what others want - it should stay like this FOR ME!!!)??? perhaps you can come up wiht a SOLUTION that satisfies more than one crowd? We can't please everyone - but we might be able to please more than just one...

[vaugahn]

I'm looking to make it better FOR EVERYBODY. 

 

What about the people who like vor how he is?

[SilverBones]

Moving to general feedback.

[FaintestAura]

I'm looking to make it better FOR EVERYBODY. 

You really can't generalize for the ENTIRE warframe community, its impossible. I actually like Vor's spawn rates at the moment. I would say maybe decrease slightly in Defense missions, but everywhere else keep as is. He's fun to fight and can present a bit of challenge that's hard to find nowadays. 

 

Besides, what if people still don't have the cicero mods yet? Vor's frequent appearances makes it simple to obtain said mods rather than waiting on them like other prime parts. 

[magusat999]

You really can't generalize for the ENTIRE warframe community, its impossible. I actually like Vor's spawn rates at the moment. I would say maybe decrease slightly in Defense missions, but everywhere else keep as is. He's fun to fight and can present a bit of challenge that's hard to find nowadays. 

 

Besides, what if people still don't have the cicero mods yet? Vor's frequent appearances makes it simple to obtain said mods rather than waiting on them like other prime parts. 

Are you responding to my original post? Because I did not post as a generalization. I posted as a reaction to my experiences and a suggestion of how to make it better for everyone. My suggestion might need some tweaking (and I said I welcome tweaks) but the issue is people who come in and have nothing constructive to add, just to troll and fan flames. Insulting me is not helping the topic - or anyone's topic. Trying to discredit someone isn't moving the topic along either.

 

Anyways, I just wanted to add that I have been focusing on T4 Survivals and for example yesterday, Vor showed up back to back in two games. One of them we killed him, collected his drops -  and he showed up again right around the corner so fast I could have sworn there were two of him there!

[(PSN)Lord_Gremlin]

I wish all assassins had a 100% chance of spawning somewhere. I'd love to fight G3, Harvester and Stalker way more often even if during these 100% spawn scenarios they had very low chances to drop anything or different/no drops.

I do agree that Vor is not fun to fight and promotes using same few tricks while punishing trying anything else, also his hitbox seem to glitch for clients (the glowing energy in the middle stops taking damage from clients just like normal Vor could become invincible forever with glitched animation, that's fixed now I think).