Suggestion: Taxi Limitations

[magusat999]

I'd like to see some limitations on "taxi-ing" people to other areas they have not unlocked. Newbs ask this because they want to rush to the "good stuff", someone told them "x" mod is there, they saw a locked alert for some goodie, and some of them are just lazy people who want to power level by leeching off higher level players. I don't mind helping - but sometimes it gets out of hand. N00bs are dying unnecessarily at an alarmingly high rate! There needs to be some order!

 

I suggest these changes:

 

1) You cannot be taxied to a location on a planet you haven't unlocked. First, at least make it to the planet! After that you may be taxied to one of the unlocked planet's locations... maybe.

 

2) You can only join a Void session after you obtain at least one key to that area. Players should at least TRY to get the keys before begging to go to say T4 Survival.

 

3) Void rides are restricted. If you have played 20 Interceptions you get unlimited taxi rides to the Void (ok, technically those are invites - but we are doing something about those too). Under 20 Interceptions you get one ride per 3 Interceptions played. This is in ADDITION to the other restrictions!

 

4) No taxi to bosses allowed! We don't want you to jeopardize the whole mission! You aren't ready for that yet! The taxi ride ends a the node next to the boss.

 

5) You cannot be taxied unless all of your load-out, Sentinel and Warframe are max level. No taxi for weak frames trying to leech for quick leveling! you must be able to contribute and take care of yourself! This is in ADDITION to the other restrictions! So if your maxed out, but haven't played enough Interceptions - then NO you cannot be taxied until you fulfilled ALL of the requirements.

 

6) Finally, you must be at least RANK 6 to request a taxi. The ride will not happen unless you put some effort into the game first. This is in ADDITION to the other restrictions!

 

7) ALL THESE RULES ARE ADDITIVE. YOU MUST SATISFY ALL OF THEM, NOT ONE OR THE OTHER, TO QUALIFY FOR A TAXI or INVITE.

 

8) EXCEPTIONS made for friends and Clan members - no restrictions in those cases. Taxi rules are made primarily for strangers (Pick Up Games). this will up the fr begging - but at least you know who you are taking into a mission with you, and their capabilities (or lack of).

 

Hey that's just my take off the top of my head. Let me know what you think or if you can improve this idea...

 

Edited cuz some people think I am trying to lay down the law - I'm just OPENING DISCUSSION about it, don't take my suggestions as de-facto!!! If you think it should be different - TELL US ABOUT IT, don't just get snarky! Its not like any of this is actually going to happen!!!

Edited July 14, 2014 by magusat999

[DarthRevan84]

They said during the livestream that taxi'ing will no longer unlock the mission for the person being taxi'ed

[Trowicia]

Great news, DE actually confirmed that taxi-ing will still be allowed, but the node will remain locked until the player unlocks it theirselves through star chart progression.

 

It was stated in a recent dev stream, I'll go back and take a look to find the exact time for you.\

 

Edited July 14, 2014 by Trowicia

[Zakharon]

I never had or saw a problem with taxing idk why people get into a fit geez lets see how you would like to miss out on a reactor alert because you can't be taxied 

[Arabaxus]

The fact the node will no longer be unlocked is the best thing, because I'm sick and tired of seeing MR 0 and MR 1 people sitting AFK in Sechura. It's fine if they're afking with a friend who's actually doing something though, since at least their party is contributing somehow, though less than if two people were on board.

 

In general though I think Taxis would be that big a thing if the beginning of playing Warframe (when you just start on Mercury at MR0) wasn't so bloody boring. This game only gets fun after you get established a bit, but that takes time and potentially hurts prospective players. We should do something about the early game before we do anything about taxis.

[TheErebus.]

 

6) Finally, you must be at least level 6 to request a taxi. The ride will not happen unless you put some effort into the game first.

I dislike taxi-ing but this is way too far. 

[Zakharon]

This is what this guy thinks of noobs who need help and want those limited alerts 
 

[TheErebus.]

This is what this guy thinks of noobs who need help and want those limited alerts 

 

The hate for taxi-ing is generally seen because the "noobs" are weak and can't seem to kill a boss or beat a certain mission. This is the one I dislike. However for alerts and these sorts of events, it's perfectly fine to taxi. 

 

This is why the upcoming update fix with the taxi makes it good for this, because now the taxi for alerts won't just make it easier for the person trying to get through the game but can still claim the precious potato.

[magusat999]

The other side of the node not being unlocked after a taxi ride is the player will continue to ask for taxi rides! If they are going to allow taxi's they should let those nodes be unlocked afterwards - they are just encouraging MORE taxi begging that way. A two edged sword... hurts  somebody either way.

 

Oh, the reason I suggested a level restriction for being able to get a taxi ride is otherwise you'll help someone and find out it's their second mission! Say you taxi someone to Ceres - anywhere on Ceres, and they turn out to be level 1 frame??? Locking out according to Level Mastery assures that the person has played the game enough to be familiar with it and know what they are doing.

[TheErebus.]

 

Oh, the reason I suggested a level restriction for being able to get a taxi ride is otherwise you'll help someone and find out it's their second mission! Say you taxi someone to Ceres - anywhere on Ceres, and they turn out to be level 1 frame??? Locking out according to Level Mastery assures that the person has played the game enough to be familiar with it and know what they are doing.

I don't mind level restricting, but your suggestion is far too high. You're not restricting it, you're practically just erasing it.

 

EDIT: Because at that rank, most users would have already unlocked nearly all of the system. Therefore rendering the need for taxi pointless.

Edited July 14, 2014 by TheErebus

[Trowicia]

I never had or saw a problem with taxing idk why people get into a fit geez lets see how you would like to miss out on a reactor alert because you can't be taxied 

 

I think you're missing the point.

 

People don't mind taxi-ing, it's just the fact that people hate getting Mastery Rank 0 players in their games (Survival mission at Pluto, for example) and overall being a burden to the group as a result of being taxi'd to a mission on that node for a special alert that occurred there.

[Zakharon]

I think you're missing the point.

 

People don't mind taxi-ing, it's just the fact that people hate getting Mastery Rank 0 players in their games (Survival mission at Pluto, for example) and overall being a burden to the group as a result of being taxi'd to a mission on that node for a special alert that occurred there.

Then dont revive them, dont help them, let them die and use their revives til they are out, then its no longer a burden 

[TheErebus.]

Then dont revive them, dont help them, let them die and use their revives til they are out, then its no longer a burden 

Nooo because then you're a complete jackass who no one would ever want to play with.

And by doing this, you'd represent to the new players that the community is a bunch of elitists who don't care about the players whatsoever.

[Zakharon]

Nooo because then you're a complete jackass who no one would ever want to play with.

And by doing this, you'd represent to the new players that the community is a bunch of elitists who don't care about the players whatsoever.

I am just offering options that does't make DE have to do any work, also if you don't want noobs set to invite only then so its you and your friends

[TheErebus.]

I am just offering options that does't make DE have to do any work, also if you don't want noobs set to invite only then so its you and your friends

"DE not doing any work".

I get your intentions, but you worded that horribly. DE have to work hard to make things better, what you suggested was just taking the easy way out.

 

And to your second point, well then what about when there is no friends on? You'd either play ChatFrame or go on a PUG. 

[Trowicia]

Then dont revive them, dont help them, let them die and use their revives til they are out, then its no longer a burden 

 

That's a waste of a player slot. Besides, the solution to mitigate this issue is already in the works and is likely to be shipped with Update 14.

[Zakharon]

"DE not doing any work".

I get your intentions, but you worded that horribly. DE have to work hard to make things better, what you suggested was just taking the easy way out.

 

And to your second point, well then what about when there is no friends on? You'd either play ChatFrame or go on a PUG. 

Your terminology escapes me atm but how about joining a clan or alliance always people on to play with you

[TheErebus.]

Your terminology escapes me atm but how about joining a clan or alliance always people on to play with you

What I'm saying is that your suggestion is bad for the community because it shows a bad side of the community.

And yeah, that's a solution for sure but it still wouldn't stop taxi-ing.

[Zakharon]

What I'm saying is that your suggestion is bad for the community because it shows a bad side of the community.

And yeah, that's a solution for sure but it still wouldn't stop taxi-ing.

I ment ChatFrame or go on a PUG

[Vanadium]

4) No taxi to bosses allowed! We don't want you to jeopardize the whole mission! You aren't ready for that yet! The taxi ride ends a the node next to the boss.

 

5) You cannot be taxied unless all of your load-out, Sentinel and Warframe are max level. No taxi for weak frames trying to leech for quick leveling! you must be able to contribute and take care of yourself!

 

6) Finally, 

you must be at least level 6 to request a taxi. The ride will not happen unless you put some effort into the game first.

 

First, I'd just like to say...Scrubs need to eat (potatoes), too. Who else is gonna help them eat? DE? Maybe when U14 comes, but not right now.

 

Your first 3 are confusing, so I'm not commenting on those.

 

4) Jeopardize what? The hardest boss in the game right now is Hyena (are the Hyenas) or would be if they weren't mid-level and no one farms for control modules anymore. Every other boss in the game is way too soloable.

 

5) Does this tie back to your "20 Ints or more" thing? I'm sure there are some mid-rank players who only have a few weapons they actually want to forma 5 times. So everything in there arsenal is either sold, in the middle of maxing, or in the middle of being forma'd. Even for vets, this is way too restrictive.

 

6) You mean rank 6, right? But if you mean level, then this one isn't applicable because of #5. But rank 6 is, again, way too restrictive. Considering how many resources necessary to build even low-tier weapons is locked behind map-grind, requiring new players just wallow in Bratons and Latos is ridiculous.

 

These rules aren't very nice.

[TheErebus.]

I ment ChatFrame or go on a PUG

ChatFrame is basically when you go on warframe but only to chat with people on region/clan/council/clan/alliance chat and I meant to say PUB which is short for public game.

[Zakharon]

ChatFrame is basically when you go on warframe but only to chat with people on region/clan/council/clan/alliance chat and I meant to say PUB which is short for public game.

Oh ok that make sense now

[Vanadium]

There's always TradeFrame, too.

[magusat999]

First, I'd just like to say...Scrubs need to eat (potatoes), too. Who else is gonna help them eat? DE? Maybe when U14 comes, but not right now.

 

Your first 3 are confusing, so I'm not commenting on those.

 

4) Jeopardize what? The hardest boss in the game right now is Hyena (are the Hyenas) or would be if they weren't mid-level and no one farms for control modules anymore. Every other boss in the game is way too soloable.

 

5) Does this tie back to your "20 Ints or more" thing? I'm sure there are some mid-rank players who only have a few weapons they actually want to forma 5 times. So everything in there arsenal is either sold, in the middle of maxing, or in the middle of being forma'd. Even for vets, this is way too restrictive.

 

6) You mean rank 6, right? But if you mean level, then this one isn't applicable because of #5. But rank 6 is, again, way too restrictive. Considering how many resources necessary to build even low-tier weapons is locked behind map-grind, requiring new players just wallow in Bratons and Latos is ridiculous.

 

These rules aren't very nice.

You forgot to quote this part:

 

"Hey that's just my take off the top of my head. Let me know what you think or if you can improve this idea...

 

Edited cuz some people think I am trying to lay down the law - I'm just OPENING DISCUSSION about it, don't take my suggestions as de-facto!!! If you think it should be different - TELL US ABOUT IT, don't just get snarky! Its not like any of this is actually going to happen!!!"

 

Your response is a prime example of not understanding the purpose of the topic, yet wanting to respond with vicious intent anyway.

[TheErebus.]

 

You forgot to quote this part:

 

"Hey that's just my take off the top of my head. Let me know what you think or if you can improve this idea...

 

Edited cuz some people think I am trying to lay down the law - I'm just OPENING DISCUSSION about it, don't take my suggestions as de-facto!!! If you think it should be different - TELL US ABOUT IT, don't just get snarky! Its not like any of this is actually going to happen!!!"

 

Your response is a prime example of not understanding the purpose of the topic, yet wanting to respond with vicious intent anyway.

 

You say open discussion, but what you really mean is "Don't pick apart my post".

We can do what we please and if that's picking apart the logic behind your post then we will.

 

You don't need to be so butt hurt about it.