Loki Prime: Build Or Sell

[Yazeth]

I need some help deciding on this. I have already asked a question like this before, but I am still wondering. Should I build Loki Prime, or sell the set for platinum so that I can invest in slots and potatoes?

 

Loki is a great frame, and I cannot deny that. But, my main issue is that you don't need to have ALL of Loki aspects in one frame. What I mean by this is that you can have multiple frames for multiple situations to cover for not having that one specific frame.

 

Loki can become invisible, but so can Ash. I know that Ash's invisibility is shorter, but basically costs the same energy as Loki's in terms of per second. It also provides a nice CC stun effect. Ash is also more tanky than Loki. So, if I wanted to become invisible, I would choose Ash over Loki. Invisibility is a must for Loki, but its and enhancer for Ash in my opinion.

 

If I want to have CC, I would choose from Nyx, Ember w/ Accelerant build, or Vauban (for Infested). Loki does have a unique ult, and is only affected by Range. But, with the addition of Chaos, Nyx also provides defensive capability as well with her Absorb. In terms of (Mobile) Defense missions, I would use Nyx instead of Loki just because she will be able to defend the pod (or whatever) almost infinitely.

 

Ember isn't that great, but w/ a nice Accelerant build, she can basically keep enemies on lock down basically forever. It's more spammable than Radial Disarm, and even provides a Heat dmg bonus not just for her abilities, but all weapons that deal this dmg. With the new idea that Heat is better than Cold for Void, Ember can really become a nice support frame. Removing enemies' guns is nice, but that doesn't matter when you don't even allow them to do anything at all.

 

And now for Vauban. Of course he's the master of CC for Infested, so that's a given. He's a better choice for Infested (Mobile) Defense/Survival than Loki.

 

Of course, Loki Prime does provide a little bit of all, providing universal use for basically all missions. So, what do you guys think. Is he worth more to build, or more to sell?

[Axeroix]

do you have the full set?

because if you dont then it may be best to sell it

Edited July 16, 2014 by Axeroix

[KiraShado]

Loki Prime is a good option if you want to invest forma into an original Loki and choose not to. (He has TWO extra polarities and more energy!)

But I suggest you sell your extra parts because you never built a Loki Prime yet. Sell extras, don't sell things you have one of. because RNG may bite your behind later for it.

[RedPrimed]

Loki Prime is a good option if you want to invest forma into an original Loki and choose not to. (He has TWO extra polarities and more energy!)

But I suggest you sell your extra parts because you never built a Loki Prime yet. Sell extras, don't sell things you have one of. because RNG may bite your behind later for it.

^ what he said

[TC-Guardian]

other than heaps of energy and cool looks, you may as well just sell him and roll with normal loki. Though where loki beats ash is before coming out of invis loki can cast radial so any enemies that do see him for the brief one second can't one shot, thus making him able to run at a much higher level.

[FaintestAura]

Stating that what loki can do is pretty much covered in a number of other frames seems like a very poor reason not to build him. Instead of needing all those other frames, as you state, Loki can perform it all. 

 

If anything, it will be extra mastery that you will gain from leveling him up. I may be biased on the matter since I feel the need to have everything but yes build him. Besides, prices may be dropping soon on his parts due to the update happening very soon. 

[(PSN)friedricetheman]

If anything Loki Prime provides an extra 6,000 mastery rank points.

 

Also, I have only forma'd my Loki Prime once and he can pretty much fit in any combination of mods.

Edited July 16, 2014 by (PS4)friedricetheman

[(PSN)StoneRevolver]

It sounds like you've already made up your mind.

 

Loki (Prime) is fantastic but isn't for everyone.

Edited July 16, 2014 by (PS4)StoneRevolver

[OptimumBow0]

If you get (or have) extra parts for Loki Prime, just sell them off.

 

Alternatively, farm for a complete, second set and just sell that.

[Yazeth]

other than heaps of energy and cool looks, you may as well just sell him and roll with normal loki. Though where loki beats ash is before coming out of invis loki can cast radial so any enemies that do see him for the brief one second can't one shot, thus making him able to run at a much higher level.

 

Like I said, in terms of invisibility, I would prefer Ash. I do not like to count in other abilities as well, since that would be comparing frames instead.

 

If you really want to compare the two, Ash's stun w/ Smokescreen makes it so that nearby enemies will stop firing. Loki's invisibility doesn't do that, making it risky to use under heavy fire. Of course, you can use Radial Disarm beforehand, but Ash's Bladestorm can also be used similarly. Because it provides invincibility, you are able to regain your shield. Also, you will keep on attacking up to 15 times with it, regardless if there's just one dude left. So, it will most likely kill  higher lvl dudes due to the combination of the huge base dmg, bleed procs (which are stackable), and the combo multiplier. I also noticed that it serves as a passive CC, since it will actually draw fire towards you during the ability.  With my build, which uses Natural Talent, I can quickly use Smoke Screen right afterwards, stunning any enemies that might attack me again, and get away (or just melee).

 

I'm not saying that Ash is better. I'm just trying to look at each frame's full potential in every situation possible. You must think of every possible things you can do with a SINGLE frame before you can make a decision. Ash was geared towards close range encounters, while Loki was geared towards team support. Certain frames are better in certain situations, but I do not believe that a frame can be completely better than another frame.

 

If anything Loki Prime provides an extra 6,000 mastery rank points.

 

Until the Focus system comes out, I have no real need for getting extra Mastery.

 

 

It sounds like you've already made up your mind.

 

Not really. I'm actually still stumped. Loki Prime is purely utility, which means he can basically scale onto any levels. No other frame is pure utility, so that makes Loki very unique and is worth thinking about. Of course, every other frames are unique as well. but Loki is basically more flexible in more situations. With those two in mind, it makes it really hard to decide.

 

 

Loki Prime is a good option if you want to invest forma into an original Loki and choose not to. 

 

I do not like to compare Primes vs. non-Primes in terms of frames. They both provide the exact same playstyle, its just that the Prime version benefits you more due to the extra polarity slot(s) and (in the case for Excal, Rhino, and Loki Primes)  stat boost.

 

But yeah. Loki is a real nice frame. He provides a unique playstyle that can't be copied by a SINGLE frame, can do well against any level, and can adapt to multiple situations. My only problem is deciding whether I need this versatility or not. 

[Darzk]

I sold two sets of Loki Prime before building him, because I already had a potatoed and multi-forma Loki. 

 

Basically, I would say it boils down to how much you want to play him. If, as you said, you can complete his roles with other frames in your arsenal and if you have no particular desire to play him right now, you can go ahead and sell the set you have while prices are still high. You can probably buy a few slots/potatoes and still have enough left over to buy back Loki Prime in a month or two, as prices drop.

 

The really nice thing about Loki Prime is that there's not a huge need to forma him, so you can powerlevel to 30 in a handful of missions and hes ready to take into endgame content (assuming you have the mods).