neKroMancer Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) One thing that really bother me for a while is the power design. All frame share a similarity in powers' energy tier which are 25/50/75/100. Why don't we have a 25/25/25/25 or 50/50/50/50 frame in the game? Now I have almost all frames in my arsenal, I don't see why should powers be restricted to the tier system. For players who like to cast, 25-50 energy per cast is just about right since it allows some spamming freedom. I don't need anything flashy like AOE ultimate. A less potent power with more utility would be a viable alternative design, imo. What do you think? Should we have frame with lower energy consumption with utility>damage? Edit: after reading a few comments, I see that my post is inadequately express my intent. My first intent is "should all frames have ultimates"? Ultimates are very situational. If we have more useful 25/50 power, we may not have to use it at all. My second intent is "Can we have more diverse power design which involve utility more than damage"? We don't have power which slow the enemy down en mass, we don't have power that lower enemies' armor, we don't have power which push/stun mobs at medium range to prevent them from ganging us, etc. I know that there are a few variations in energy tier. However, they don't truely break the norm in trem of design. Most of them were lowered from the original to balance the power usage. Original Ash's smokescreen cost higher than 35 and original super jump cost 50. Edited April 10, 2013 by neKroMancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoRDxDeMoN Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Some frames have powers that only cost 10, some have multiple powers that cost 25 or 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowsCrush Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 quite a few frames have variations actually its not as strict as you think frost is 25/50/50/100 despite it saying 75 when you cast globe ash is 25/35/25/100 banshee is 25/100/25/100 etc etc for having all frames it appears you've just been ignoring the details of each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantB Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Ash has 25/50/25/100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatRefrigerator Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Excal has super jump which is a 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagonene Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Yes but super jump is less incredible hulk more batroc the leaper. Sagonene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercuriaI_Temper Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Yes but super jump is less incredible hulk more batroc the leaper. Sagonene Upgrade it all the way dude, you start getting crazy air with it. I love taking crazy shortcuts by super jumping and ninja kicking over a huge gap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantB Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) What the point on jumping when I could just destroy everything in my way ;) Edited April 10, 2013 by GiantB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatRefrigerator Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 What the point on jumping when I could just destroy everything in my way ;) Insert any non-ultimate skill name in for "jumping" and the argument is still valid, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stygi Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I agree. Idk if you have seen the livestream, but it has been confirmed that warframes will receive more powers in the distance future. So if you want to have a warframe with no ultimate, you can just replace the ultimate with a new one and still have 4 powers in your build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naqel Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Best thing at this point would be to do away with the energy system. It encourages toxic play patterns, detracts from the overall enjoyment, makes balancing the abilities a nightmare, and places a ton of clutter on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishworshipper Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Best thing to do would be to not F*** with it. It works well, don't fix what ain't broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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