Guest Tehnoobshow Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Since there are 30 maximum ranks for weapons and Warframes, one would assume that the same goes for Mastery Ranks. However, there is a problem if this is true. If there are 30 mastery ranks, the amount of exp needed to get to rank 30 would be 22,735,000 according to the formula given by the wiki (amount of exp require for each rank = 2500*rank^2) Minus the amount of exp given by the Star Chart (14,746 exp) is 22,720,254 exp This is the equivalent of 7573 Weapons (3000 exp each) or 3786 Warframes (6000 exp each) or 2524 Sentinels (6000 exp) + Sentinel Weapons (3000 exp) If new gear is added according to the current ratio of Warframes : Weapons : Sentinels (156:26:7) This would be 6251 Weapons, 520 Warframes, and 93 Sentinels Currently, we have 156 weapons, 26 Warframes, and 7 Sentinels, yet some weapons are already useless for anything other than mastery. If we aren't scraping the bottom of the barrel now, we will be eventually. Just some interesting info I though you should know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenixhart Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 You're forgetting Planet nodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 There will probably be multiple ways to get more mastery. PVP can be one of them, quests and diplomacy, focus system and many other things will/should allow for further mastery gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tehnoobshow Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Minus the amount of exp given by the Star Chart (14,746 exp) is 22,720,254 exp You're forgetting Planet nodes Planet nodes isn't much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--Meta Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Hm...I wonder if DE had something in mind for this, along the lines of more special events or something of that nature.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Brako_El_Mostro Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I know there will be a few more frames coming and weapons buy it wont be that high of a number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace24 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 DE has set a high ceiling for expansion. mastery rank 30 is not something we're going to get any time soon. glad you didn't complain about the fact that you can't get all the mastery rank achievements yet, at least. but seeing the actual numbers is pretty astounding 520 different warframes? and I thought I would have enough plat for slots, silly me. also, that's a lot of creativity to create so many things. you're right, how will DE come up with more unique weapons and frames? I can't begin to imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedude1000 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Huy I made a thread about this waaaaay back when i was a black knight noob https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/224805-none-of-us-will-reach-rank-30-with-numbers-3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzatuw Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I think quest should give mastery though. It's a thing that every game has when it comes to quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechdeus Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Ah, this again. Yes, it will have to get reconfigured at some point. Might even change with focus, if they decide to add in all additional experience acquired on max-level equipment as counting towards the total. Will still need to tone down or change the scaling in some way and I'm sure DE will tackle that as it becomes an issue and/or matters, so we'll get there way before the current setup appears to demonstrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyeth Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 There will probably be multiple ways to get more mastery. PVP can be one of them, quests and diplomacy, focus system and many other things will/should allow for further mastery gain I honestly hope this becomes true. I feel like they can open the game up more if they allow mastery xp to be gained in other ways except for just buying and leveling new warframes and weapons. This way they could create some sort of AA or "paragon" type system where once you reach say like lvl 30 Mastery rank, then every level afterwards grants you a stat bonus you can add to one of your warframes. Of course they would be small enough to be able to accumulate over time, but big enough to actually give a real benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastikator2 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 You're forgetting Planet nodes Ok so we'll 500 planets each with 20 nodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Actually, how about we add another way to gain Mastery: You know the additional objective that the Lotus gave us during Vor's Prize (destroy the core to save the colony, or just extract)? Why not have completing additional objectives in a mission (will be granted at random, when the player finishes the initial objective) gain you Mastery, dependent on the planet (Pluto will have 5,000 Mastery points, for instance)? That way, we can cut down on the amount of weapons/Warframes/Sentinels/different planets needed to gain to Rank 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandis Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The Codex needs to give mastery. Literally, besides being a completionist, there is very little reason to scan enemies right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnProdman Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 DE has already stated that there are going to be other ways of obtaining mastery experience. Don't think of it like you've been. Of course we're even farther away from that now because spacedogs were given priority over Focus and other endgame development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReizoRyuu Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Huy I made a thread about this waaaaay back when i was a black knight noob https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/224805-none-of-us-will-reach-rank-30-with-numbers-3/ Thought this thread seemed familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzodia Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 If you really think about it.... it'll eventually become pokemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnbeBleeder Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 DE needs to pull a Value and have people make weapons and frames, and add them to the game. No work done other than balance and end game material. That's how I like my f2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verre Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) So far we have: You're forgetting Planet nodes Hm...I wonder if DE had something in mind for this, along the lines of more special events or something of that nature.... I think quests should give mastery though. It's a thing that every game has when it comes to quests. The Codex needs to give mastery. Literally, besides being a completionist, there is very little reason to scan enemies right now. What are some more ideas.. More in-game challenges maybe? Edited July 21, 2014 by Verre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostkeel Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Judging by the numbers that OP has given, DE has alot of work ahead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 What are some more ideas.. More in-game challenges maybe? Additional objectives give Mastery Experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)andyb_b5 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 If new gear is added according to the current ratio of Warframes : Weapons : Sentinels (156:26:7) This would be 6251 Weapons, 520 Warframes, and 93 Sentinels I may need to get some extra slots then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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