Pbrandon1 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 It is odd that we don't face the same enemies that we grow. Why do we not come across Raksa, Sahasa, Huras , or Sunika Kubrows? We obviously see that we get them from Kubrow dens so that means that wouldn't we also see the same version of the Kubrow that we grow from the egg we get from that Den? Also, why are the Kubrows that we grow larger then the ones seen on Earth? Surely not all of the Kubrows are just small beings that don't live long until to maturity. Maybe it's due to them always being a fighting stance all the time and never on a normal stance, I'm not sure. You could make the excuse that, "Well, we incubate them so they will be of course more stronger then their counter-part." Well, not really. That's like saying if you take a chicken egg and incubate it in a enclosed environment, it will be stronger then the ones you see in wild. Of course that is not true. They would be the same depending on how you raised the animal. It would be interesting to face different versions of Kubrows but the problem is, is that some of the kubrows look way too out of place for the environment they grow up in. Maybe place different dens in different tilesets so that it seems more right for them to have that type of coat on them? I'm not sure, just saying that it is weird how we get these eggs from these Kubrows but the eggs don't match their appearance. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaTercel Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Malnutrition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Space magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent_Flower Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The Dire kubrow is the sigel of house tenno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurmageddon Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 In the game's lore there is actually a legitimate reason for this. The Kubrows you see on earth are a specific breed that evolved to be vicious, agile pack-hunters that made their nests out of discarded branches. The Kubrows we make ourselves are cloned ones that are designed to be more reminiscent of the different breeds owned by orokin nobility. Think of it like the difference between Domestic breeds vs. Wild breeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbrandon1 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Malnutrition. Those Kubrows have seemed to alive so far since the age of the Orokin and plus they hit like a punch and move pretty quickly so there is no way they are suffering from Malnutrition. Plus, they have a daily buffet of Grineer at there feet, there is no way they don't take advantage of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaTercel Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Those Kubrows have seemed to alive so far since the age of the Orokin and plus they hit like a punch and move pretty quickly so there is no way they are suffering from Malnutrition. Plus, they have a daily buffet of Grineer at there feet, there is no way they don't take advantage of that. Grineers are genetically deteriorated, so... Kubrows eating Grineer flesh, not growing as big.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbrandon1 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 In the game's lore there is actually a legitimate reason for this. The Kubrows you see on earth are a specific breed that evolved to be vicious, agile pack-hunters that made their nests out of discarded branches. The Kubrows we make ourselves are cloned ones that are designed to be more reminiscent of the different breeds owned by orokin nobility. Think of it like the difference between Domestic breeds vs. Wild breeds That doesn't make sense because how can you get a Kubrow that is more of Orokin decent when you most likely don't even have the DNA for it and plus, we don't even clone them. We just use an egg that we get from a Den and all we do is just incubate the egg and let it grow. We don't inject anything into or anything like that so there is no way we could have gotten the results that the Orokin must have gotten. Unless the Tenno are getting their DNA from the Void or the Corpus(Due to their interest in the Orokin and stuff), there is no way we could have gotten the same thing the Orokin have gotten because the Kubrows we see are way different then the ones that come from their eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent_Flower Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Dude, phobos is a huge spherical moon with atmosphere. I don't think DE intend for their lore to be taken too seriously. stuff's the way it is because DE, not logic. The two are mutually exclusive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 gameplay =/= lore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbrandon1 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Dude, phobos is a huge spherical moon with atmosphere. I don't think DE intend for their lore to be taken too seriously. stuff's the way it is because DE, not logic. The two are mutually exclusive! Logic is needed for lore to work and some people hate when things are inconsistent to the things you see. You get more style points to sticking to logic more instead of going far away from it. I know Warframe has some illogical things here and there but we don't always have to have everything not make any sense you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbrandon1 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 gameplay =/= lore Then why does most of the Warframes we use and weapons we use exist. Why don't we have Guns that shoot ducks or balloons because obviously game-play does not equal lore at all? Lore is needed for gameplay to make sense or else we would could any weapon or possible combination in.the game or some of things we do wouldn't make sense like why were able to use acrobatics and why we have abilities and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Then why does most of the Warframes we use and weapons we use exist. Why don't we have Guns that shoot ducks or balloons because obviously game-play does not equal lore at all? Lore is needed for gameplay to make sense or else we would could any weapon or possible combination in.the game or some of things we do wouldn't make sense like why were able to use acrobatics and why we have abilities and stuff. Well by that (bad) logic we shouldn't have any menu buttons and there should only be one of each frame allowed in each group. We get the cool kubrows because we're a player character and space magic says so, or else it wouldn't be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liu_Cypher Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 That doesn't make sense because how can you get a Kubrow that is more of Orokin decent when you most likely don't even have the DNA for it and plus, we don't even clone them. We just use an egg that we get from a Den and all we do is just incubate the egg and let it grow. We don't inject anything into or anything like that so there is no way we could have gotten the results that the Orokin must have gotten. Unless the Tenno are getting their DNA from the Void or the Corpus(Due to their interest in the Orokin and stuff), there is no way we could have gotten the same thing the Orokin have gotten because the Kubrows we see are way different then the ones that come from their eggs. Considering the dome closes on the incubator after we insert an egg and the power core, we really do not know what is happening inside. They could be picking up radiation from the power core making them larger and stronger etc. On the other hand Liset may be injecting them with an unknown compound after the incubator is closed as well. Without being able to see inside we will never know what Frankenstein type experiments are being done on our poor Kubrow pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbrandon1 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Well by that (bad) logic we shouldn't have any menu buttons and there should only be one of each frame allowed in each group. We get the cool kubrows because we're a player character and space magic says so, or else it wouldn't be fun. I'm not saying Kubrows should not exist at all, I'm just saying it would make more sense for us to see the versions we grow fight against us and not just one version which is weaker to the ones we grow. Plus, have it make sense where they are located. Of course some things are not going to be logical and are needed for gameplay to work plus that is true that we shouldn't have one each frame in each group by lore standards and DE seems to have dug themselves deeper into that situation with the Vor's Prize Quest but they can fix that if they just found a good reason as to why so many of the same Warframe exist at the same time if each one them is special in their own way. There are people here who love lore and love the Warframe lore too. People wanna be entrenched in lore but don't wanna be thrown off by things that don't make sense because "Space Magic". This is not me saying in anyway that Warframe should just remove menus and the option to leave, no. That is necessary for a game to function. All I am saying is to have consistency where it is most important and that is with lore and gameplay.(Not UI) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 -snip- There's a lot of lore problems, but kubrows aren't one of them. Don't forget the liset is an orokin ship with a special device built especially for kubrows, it's possible we only needed the egg for base genetic material and then the ship spliced in orokin-era traits. Also, nothing on kubrows clearly being mammals but hatching out of an egg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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