Post Your Imprint Breeding Results. Let's Try And Figure Out The Kubrow Genetics (Imprints)

[Electronite]

I was just looking around to see what imprints do exactly, do they carry the fur patterns only or everything including build and class, but I came up empty. Looked around the forums and there wasn't anything definitive. From Live stream 31 they say it includes all the characteristics but some people say its only the patterns.

 

So I thought I'd create a thread for people to post the results of their kubro breeding results so we can get a grasp on what traits are dominant or recessive. So here's a template for posting your 'experiment'. Pictures would be EXTREMELY helpful, if you don't have the screenshots then try to be as descriptive as possible, perhaps use other people's posts as an example. For example, "My imprint 1 has the same patter as post #6 Imprint 1" or something like that.

 

Imprint 1:(Please if you can make sure the order you post here is the same order you used when blending)

Kubro Type:

Gender:

Height(Tall, medium, small):

Build(Stocky/Fat, Normal, Skinny):

Pattern(Just a simple description would do, just needed to see what pattern ends up dominant):

 

Imprint 2:

Kubro Type:

Gender:

Height:

Build:

Pattern:

 

Baby:

Kubro Type:

Gender:

Height:

Build:

Pattern:

 

 

So far my findings are:

--- Imprints only give a higher chance for the kubro baby to carry the characteristics of the 2 imprints. 

---There are dominant and recessive traits, resulting in some traits to always take priority. But that's only if RNG decides your imprints take priority.

---Each Kubro can only have 2 imprints taken of them. And only after they are fully grown into adults.

---From Livestream gender could also imply dominance or recessiveness of genes.

---As of Hotfix 14.05 All Kubro breeding now only uses dominant traits(no surprises recessive genes anymore). Well this is a big change, don't know how exactly this will work. 

---From a twitter we found out these are the traits categories:

 

Body Type(implicitly derived, not explicitly stated)

Fur Pattern

Eye Colour

Colour layer 1,2 and 3(ie Primary colour, Tint 1, and Tint 2)

 

https://twitter.com/sheldoncarter/status/491370256699359232

 

---CONFIRMED. Using 2 imprints of a same Kubro does not guarentee the same Kubro but a very high chance of so.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hypothesis/Speculation(need more data)

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***FUR PATTERN**

 

 

So far we have seen many cases of Kubros with the following patterns, the other types are quite rare and I still haven't recieved any data on them. FEED ME DATA.

Stripes: The pattern with stripes on the kubro's back and legs, much like a tiger.

Lotus: A lotus symbol on the face.

Patchy: The most common of patterns, just patches of the 2 different colours on the doge, mostly very light and similiar so sometimes hard to distinguish.

 

Speculation:(NOT FINAL)

1. From Several case studies #6; #12; #24; #34; we can see that the stripes pattern is RECESSIVE. In all of the cases a stripes pattern when combined with another pattern will 'blend' you a baby with the other pattern.

 

2. Lotus pattern is also RECESSIVE, as seen in case study #32.

 

3. The Patchy pattern is very common and can be ruled as a dominant gene. So if you want a good pattern don't bring in a kubro with the patchy pattern. I think it is safe to say PATCHY IS DOMINANT.

 

 

 

 

**BODY TYPE**

 

 

Thanks to Jin_Kazama for pointing out, the stocky/fat kubro body type isn't a dominant one, he bred 2 fat doges and he got a normal weight doge. (CASE #12)

 

 

 

 

UPDATE(22/07/2014) : As of Hotfix 14.05 All Kubro breeding now only uses dominant traits(no surprises recessive genes anymore)

UPDATE(25/07/2014): I added a speculation part, to brainstorm. The findings there aren't final and purely speculation based on the limited data I have now. Thank you everyone for the posts so far. If you got friends who have also bred their kubro ask them if they'd like to post their puppy blender experience here :D Once again thank you for all the helpful posts. Love you guys.

Edited July 30, 2014 by Electronite

[Mainabi]

 

sadly it was just a bug :( but I wish I could've used it

Edited August 4, 2014 by Jun-Mai

[Nasmodok]

Okay from what i have tested the order of the type does matter as well as the type itself

Say you want a sahasa and you have sahasa and huras put the sahasa in the first slot for imprint.

Just what i have seen in 3 breeding's.

 

here is dady

Sanuka male

largest I have seen

Bred from sanuka female and huras dad

lotus print with blue orange and some black

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/41975171638719974/31A925A8782BC99CBAE0FBA47AF0743C08F637E4/

 

Mother

sahasa thing medium height

Lotus markings

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/575651003217535714/5748D176C751566A55927AC37F3F39871A14EDAB/

 

 

baby sahasa lotus markings mixed from both colors

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/41975171635578958/5F861AE8F2322AF2E68C6723DFB475293C2649B7/

 

So Father was, dark grey lotus with brown color 1 and blue color 2

mother was, red lotus with blue color 1 and silver color 2

 

baby was red lotus with brown color 1 and blue color 2

 

This would probably mean that red shares dominance with black on the pattern colors and it's 50/50 on which you get.

 

Also, there's absolutely no surprise that brown overwrote the blue on color 1, but rather interesting that you kept the blue color 2 over silver.

 

Edit: I would have expected you to get a dark grey lotus with brown color 1 and silver color 2.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Nasmodok

[AdamTheBean]

Question here... You can breed for different sizes right? I mean you can have a Muscle build like the one under raksa in the codex but it can be small medium or large in size?

[SlabBulkhead]

Are Lotus face patterns dominant?  I've done two breedings with one Lotus pattern and one non-Lotus pattern and both times I ended up with a Lotus pup.

[Ell_]

For Kubrow science!~

I dont know how to do the pulldown links, sorry if it's spammy with pictures.

 

Experiment one~~~

 

Imprint 1~

Sahasa

Biggest size in height and build

Dalmation pattern I think its called. Orange and brown

 

Imprint 2~

Huras

small height and skinny

Hyena pattern? Blue and brown

 

Result~

Sahasa

Biggest height and build

Dalmation pattern. Blue and brown exactly what I was going for yay

 

Experiment 2~~~ 

 

Imprint #1

Sunika

small height and skinny

Dalmation pattern. Orange and black

 

Imprint#2

Sunika

Mid height and agile build

Lotus pattern. gray and brown.

 

Result~~ (went terribly)

 

Sunika

Still a pup will update build and height whenever I actually mature it, its very ugly so no time soon :(

Dalmantion spots. Gray and brown with a bit of black

 

Experiment #3

 

Imprint #1

Huras

medium height and agile build.

Lotus mark. Gray with a bit of black

 

Imprint #2

Raksa

small height and skinny

X-splotch face.Black blue and brown stripes on legs

 

Result~~

Raksa

Med height and agile build

X-splotch face.Black blue and white stripe legs

 

Experiment #4

 

Imprint #1

(See Imprint #1 from experiment #3)

 

Imprint #2

Huras

Med height and skinny

Lotus mark.Orange brown and grey

 

Result~~

Huras

Still a pup ill update her puppy pic with a mature one on 8/7

Lotus mark.Orange brown and black?

 

Hope this helps somebody~~

PM me ingame if you have questions.

[V-Devil-Sharp]

Imprint 1:

Kubro Type: Sahasa

Gender: Male

Height: Medium

Build: Skinny

Pattern: Black Lotus in the face, black stripes. Grey.

 

Imprint 2:

Kubro Type: Hurass

Gender: Male

Height: Medium

Build: Skinny

Pattern: Blue with black patches

 

Baby:

Kubro Type: Hurass

Gender: Female

Height: Medium

Build: Skinny

Pattern: Black lotus in the face, black stripes, chest and belly black. Light green around Lotus mark and legs.

 

Here the baby:

 

Here Adult:

Edited August 9, 2014 by SharinganANBU

[Ivarkentje]

Trying to get a Huras, so I got a couple of imprints via Trade and I'm going to try and imprint an egg to see what happens.  Thought I'd post my results here to try and help the research effort.

Print 1: Female Huras(on the right)

Print 2: Male Huras

Result

Produced a Huras pup which is what I was going for.  I'll update this post when it fully matures.

 

 

Here he is all grown up.  Got his mom's bodytype and his dad's pattern.

SO COOL!!!!!

[AdamTheBean]

Question.. if I used this guy's imprints...

 

 

and mixed it with something like this.... https://i.imgur.com/yE8E70A.jpg

 

what would be the dominant and recessive textures...? any of you know...?

[SlabBulkhead]

 

SO COOL!!!!!

 

He's also the smallest height lol.

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Lost the screenshots of the parent imprints I used for this next incubation but I'll describe them.

Imprint 1: light grey coat with black lotus pattern, black chest/back stripes, medium build, Raksa type

Imprint 2:  dark blue color with blood red splotches/spots all over, medium build, ??? type

result: female Raksa

I was surprised that the grey patch with the black lotus symbol was kept intact along with the chest/back stripes.  It took the secondary red color of the second imprint as it's primary color, too.  It's also really tall.

[Izchi]

here is the image Nas is talking about. this is far from finished btw, we plan on doing alot more splicing to aquire our "perfect" kubrows.

also im sure there are some patterns  and colors ppl may not have seen yet, potential "ultra rare" designs *ahem**cou-prime kubrough**cough*

boy would that be cool lol. i will update the image as it grows for those interested in the results.

I'm.. not sure how to read this. Which ones are the pups, and which ones are the parents? I see arrows, but I'm still a bit confused. Did Eko and Spazz mate and create a 'hyena'(is that why it's only in text and no picture?)

[Izchi]

He's also the smallest height lol.

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Lost the screenshots of the parent imprints I used for this next incubation but I'll describe them.

Imprint 1: light grey coat with black lotus pattern, black chest/back stripes, medium build, Raksa type

Imprint 2:  dark blue color with blood red splotches/spots all over, medium build, ??? type

result: female Raksa

I was surprised that the grey patch with the black lotus symbol was kept intact along with the chest/back stripes.  It took the secondary red color of the second imprint as it's primary color, too.  It's also really tall.

That's a really nice looking kubrow. I thought splotches/hyena(is it the same) was dominant over lotus.. hahaha. This breeding process really is random.

[OUTAKE]

i can back up that spots are dominant, 1st print black with a dark redish spots 2nd print gray with oj leg stripes and oj lutos = baby thats all black with dark redish spots.

[OUTAKE]

He's also the smallest height lol.

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Lost the screenshots of the parent imprints I used for this next incubation but I'll describe them.

Imprint 1: light grey coat with black lotus pattern, black chest/back stripes, medium build, Raksa type

Imprint 2:  dark blue color with blood red splotches/spots all over, medium build, ??? type

result: female Raksa

I was surprised that the grey patch with the black lotus symbol was kept intact along with the chest/back stripes.  It took the secondary red color of the second imprint as it's primary color, too.  It's also really tall.

What was the parents gender? i'm thinking that gender might make a dominant gene recessive and a recessive traits dominant.

[fadeinlight]

Here's my first one (Ghray):

 

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/45353414827620725/C20D86B7B3E43560924128D4BC97C9D71E4E77FA/

 

Male Sunika, medium build, looks like black skin with a light gray dalmation pattern and light gray fur.

 

What's most interesting to me are the eyes--they're almost violet, almost albino-istic.  It could be the light-colored fur, but the build and eye color give it a hard, ruthless sort of look.  I don't believe I've seen any like them elsewhere.

 

**edit:  I take that back, I don't think the eye color is all that rare.  It's just that the pattern around the eye socket and head are the same light gray, which makes the eyes stand out.

Edited August 9, 2014 by fadeinlight

[RSITH]

Interesting I will help.

[Cleesus]

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[OUTAKE]

can i ask what was male/female and what slots you put there prints in?

[SUMA]

here is a better interpretation of our blueprint, follow the arrows. im sorry its kinda confusing.

[SUMA]

also here is my new #1   sooo excited about this one :D

 

named her Darth Talon

Edited August 10, 2014 by SUMA

[Nasmodok]

Baby:

Kubro Type: Hurass

Gender: Female

Height: Medium

Build: Skinny

Pattern: Black lotus in the face, black stripes, chest and belly black. Light green around Lotus mark and legs.

 

Here the baby:

 

Incorrect good sir.

 

This is a black brownish-grey lotus, with a jet black color 1 and green color 2

 

You can always tell the color of the pattern on lotus because it's the color that touches the nose.  The face color also includes the chin.  So color one is the face/chin color and includes his toes and body stripes for the most part.  Color two is the main body color.

 

Also, very nice green color!  It's too bad it wasn't a black lotus with greey face and green, that would've looked much better I think.

[Nasmodok]

here is a better interpretation of our blueprint, follow the arrows. im sorry its kinda confusing.

 

My newest one in that is Gariella, and since it's a copy of Gargamel I'll be breeding it with Ifrit in the hopes of getting a Darth Maul like my brother.  If I'm unsuccessful in breeding myself one of those I'll be using both splices of Darth Talon to hopefully get one of those.

 

Definately the sexiest dog I've seen. 

 

We're also going to try that combo with Graka Jr. in the hopes of getting a gold face with all back fur and lotus.

Edited August 10, 2014 by Nasmodok

[SUMA]

just got this one randomly, had to share cuz he's so cute XP named him Ghost

[Noteybook]

 

Just because I love the work you're doing and I'd like to throw some of my experience in. I don't know if they're the same gender though(I think they were different).

 

EDIT: As you can see on the flooring the game coloring is a little different, so I think they turned out exactly the same color(the pup isn't mine, I sold the parent's prints)

Edited August 11, 2014 by Noteybook

[SlabBulkhead]

What was the parents gender? i'm thinking that gender might make a dominant gene recessive and a recessive traits dominant.

 

No idea.  I acquired the prints through trade so there's no telling what the genders/types really were.  I wish the print viewer would have that info on it.

[Noteybook]

 

Another pic for you. I'll update when Little Peanut grows up.

 

I'd also like to note Peanut was pure white when we first got him-but his owner did the palette scrambler and he turned a notch more yellowy. Next day the color scrambler was removed, and a little while after the Kubrow colors were reworked and Peanut turned into what you see here. So I think the palette scrambler did permanently change the Kubrow's genetics.

 

EDIT: Little Peanut all grown up. Looks almost exactly like Peanut.

 

Edited August 12, 2014 by Noteybook