What Are Red Damage Numbers?

[Goldmaster]

Using Ash, sometimes when I do a melee charge during smokescreen, red numbers appear. The enemy seems to die real quick with this though, so it's a good thing :D 

 

(faded out because it's somewhat random and I have to reach over to screenshot)

 

http://i.imgur.com/YlWkcGi.jpg

 

(doesnt seem to let me put it in the image code)

Edited April 11, 2013 by Goldmaster

[Noliander]

im about 99% sure that it means youve had a critical hit while stealthed to help differentiate between all the yellow normal hits while stealthed and the red crits

[VieuxPappy]

From what I read, they are "super" crits dealing more damage then a regular crit. (normal crits are yellow and are normally 150% damage).

 

edit:

To Noliander.
It is not. As I play Ash, I use the invisiblity to get 100% crit chance all the time and I really rarely ever see red numbers.

Edited April 11, 2013 by VieuxPappy

[Hammerspace]

Use crit chance mods on your weapon to get it above 100%. That's how it used to work, at least.

[austinrelis]

It's an ultra crit. A crit of a crit, you might say.

 

And that is a lot of damage. What did you use to do that?

[Goldmaster]

Oh, several things. Been leveling random melee weapons for mastery XP. In the photo above its done with a rank 25/26 Plasma Sword on maxed charge damage, level 3/5 armor pierce and only +15% critical damage. I remember doing a lot more with Dual Heat Swords a while back (obviously).

Edited April 12, 2013 by Goldmaster

[yakutstk]

next time i go to eris ill see if i can get one of my freak crits with the plas sword, ive seen 14k there on a yellow, meaning if red is a double crit getting that on one of those hits would be $&*&*#(%& lol,  

 

back on topic though it would make sense if red crits were double crits since the numbers almost always seem higher than the standard crit damage though ive only gotten a few and that was with dual zorens so the numbers werent the highest

[CubedOobleck]

when you are invisible your regular attacks become criticals (white->yellow) and your criticals become supercriticals (yellow->red) so you deal a lot more damage. You can get red criticals without a skill and it's very rare, but how rare depends on your critical chance. Also use the search function, there was a thread that was exactly the same like last week.

[Corvalia]

The red crits are just uber crits that happen when you have over 100% crit chance. Same way the multishot works on things after 100%. People are trying to make this too complicated.

[Dreamwalk3r]

The red crits are just uber crits that happen when you have over 100% crit chance. Same way the multishot works on things after 100%. People are trying to make this too complicated.

So how does your theory explain red crits while not stealthed?

[Babalenong]

too bad crits is too luck based, that looks super cool since i never put any crit mods on my weapons

[NotSoCommonSense]

They are not uber crits.

Red numbers come from stealth attacks which deal significantly more damage.

I don't mean "invis" attacks.

I mean a stealth attack where you go up to something that's facing the other way while you're not detected and do a special melee attack.

[Bakim0n0]

You can get red numbers against an enemy facing you and aware of you if you have a high enough crit rate. Not 100% sure how high, I've heard more than a few people say over 100% but I'm not positive on that... I do know I get them on my Zorans from time to time when I have a maxed out +crit mod in it.

Also note, the highest I've seen is around 8k from a red crit off a scindo.

[RhinoPrime]

From what I read, they are "super" crits dealing more damage then a regular crit. (normal crits are yellow and are normally 150% damage).

 

edit:

To Noliander.

It is not. As I play Ash, I use the invisiblity to get 100% crit chance all the time and I really rarely ever see red numbers.

super crit? what thats a normal crit damage? i think its just fadeing yellow

[RhinoPrime]

the best crits ive done is 10k but thats cause i have a 40% crit rate and crit damage and charge damage and thats from an execute

[NotSoCommonSense]

First of all, +crit% mods don't even work that way.

It's multiplicitive.

 

So DZ's have a default crit rate of 20% I believe.

If you have 30% crit chance mod, it's 20 * 1.3, not 20+30.

If you're talking about the 100% chance to crit from invis/smokebomb, maybe that'd be the reason for getting the reds, like a multishot when you have over 100%.

That could be feasible, I suppose, but at least get your mechanics straight before you tell everyone wrong info.

 

As for me, I only consistently get red numbers when I stealth attack.

I don't do them often, but that's the only way I've seen them.

Edited April 12, 2013 by NotSoCommonSense