WilliamSXE Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) So, Space Confederation attack itself, as we see (on Sechura). All random players, playing on our side, damage us. Some things that we have noticed:1) First of all, we meet players from our alliance as enemies. There's no button to play on the side of enemy.2) Our spectres play agaist us (we see our nicknames)3) We see that players from our alliance connect on the side of the opponents but we don't see them at mission. So, we destroy(ed) ourselves. New system is really great! P.S: Some people didn't understand us correctly. We don't attack ourselves - people, who want to defend us, damage us because of a bug or system error. Edited July 25, 2014 by WilliamShakespear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 It is great. As whole U14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I don't see why people support the opposite rail, FREE TAX FOR ALL ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamSXE Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) I don't see why people support the opposite rail, FREE TAX FOR ALL ^^ People don't support them. People support us and damage by this way. In the other words how the foresaid could be explained? Edited July 25, 2014 by WilliamShakespear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casardis Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) So.... Why are you guys killing yourselves anyway? I think I just understood what's going on. Damn, that sucks. Edited July 25, 2014 by Casardis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrosite Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Im confused, are you saying that Space Confederation is in conflict with themselves...? Or is somebody attacking space confederation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Im confused, are you saying that Space Confederation is in conflict with themselves...? Or is somebody attacking space confederation? They are techincally damaging themself by attacking other rails as i got it. Something is FUBAR it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagoros Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) So, Space Confederation attack itself, as we see (on Sechura). All random players, playing on our side, damage us. Some things that we have noticed: 1) First of all, we meet players from our alliance as enemies. There's no button to play on the side of enemy. 2) Our spectres play agaist us (we see our nicknames) 3) We see that players from our alliance connect on the side of the opponents but we don't see them at mission. So, we destroy(ed) ourselves. New system is really great! Attacking your own Alliance/Clan rail was possible before U14 too... I don't really like the idea of being able to launch missions against your own Clan/Alliance, but let's not pretend this is a problem unique to U14. Edited July 25, 2014 by Hexagoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phyrosite Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They are techincally damaging themself by attacking other rails as i got it. Something is FUBAR it seems. Hmm.. Still a bit confused, will need to look into it later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--FORMA-- Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hax0r is hax0ring your defenses against you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIossome Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Im confused, are you saying that Space Confederation is in conflict with themselves...? Or is somebody attacking space confederation? I'm thinking you can't pick what side you play on and end up on the attacking side when in reality, you wanna defend your rail. Edited July 25, 2014 by BIossome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamSXE Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Im confused, are you saying that Space Confederation is in conflict with themselves...? Or is somebody attacking space confederation? Yeah, we recognized it too late. Now, we demobilized people and and damage decreases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I've been supporting this rail for HOURS.... ;-; So bug, much ASH, such wow. .... Seriously, if you bring Hitscan Ash to a pvp, you are... well, a horrible person. I'll censor myself there :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagoros Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Yeah, we recognized it too late. Now, we demobilized people and and damage decreases. So apart from giving us a status report on your Alliance...is there a point here? Maybe I'm missing something, but the OP is a tad on the vague side... Edited July 25, 2014 by Hexagoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamSXE Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'm thinking you can't pick what side you play on and end up on the attacking side when in reality, you wanna defend your rail. Yeah, that is the thought i'm trying to convey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolusUrsus Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Sounds like what you're trying to say is that conflicts are currently bugged? If so, wrong section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexagoros Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Sounds like what you're trying to say is that conflicts are currently bugged? If so, wrong section. I'm rereading the posts, I 'THINK' what he's trying to say is Space Confederation players click to defend their rail, but end up on the attacking side due to server issues. If that is the case, that's a serious, serious issue. Edited July 25, 2014 by Hexagoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaptor-Face Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 so if defenders win you take a hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamSXE Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 Guys, I'm not trying to acquit our alliance. That is THE REAL PROBLEM that we attack ourselves. People try to defend us, but as a result they attack us. I suppose that you see error "The opponent is couldn't be found" as a result of all foresaid.Now, we are trying to tell that to comunity, because our free-tax politics are made for that community. We also hope that developers will see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FacelessMaster Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'm rereading the posts, I 'THINK' what he's trying to say is Space Confederation players click to defend their rail, but end up on the attacking side due to server issues. If that is the case, that's a serious, serious issue. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dresden_ Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 The entire new rail system is utter trash at the moment. I like the premise, but it's a miserable failure in execution. I'll admit the failures are mostly due to bugs, but there are a few "wow, which numpty thought of this" mechanisms as well. I joined in on a few missions to support the Alliance. It only took 13 tries to actually get in a match. Once it found the match, the game hung up on the "please wait" screen. I had to exit the game, entirely, and try all over again. Only took 8 tries to get the next stuck "Please Wait" screen. Exited and tried again. Only 9 times to get the "please wait" screen, but this time it actually brought me into a game. About 15s into it, "Lost connection to host" and me and 3 other players are sitting in a squad screen going "wtf?". Repeat several more times and I finally got into a match. Once in the match, I was repeatedly attacked by my own NPCs. Between not knowing who was an actual enemy and all the ridiculous OHK mechanics, I was having trouble keeping up. I downed a few players, only to have them pull a full 180 while bleeding out and drop false-security-me to the ground (how are they doing that?!). A few minutes of chaos ensued, the battle ended, and I was greeted with a Battle Results screen which indicated that we won. Cool, right? Wrong. I go in to support the Alliance again, only to find they dropped 1%. Apparently winning while supporting the alliance is bad. Go figure... I think I'm just going to take a break from this game for a month. Like I said, I like what they were trying to do, but their arbitrary rebalancing (read:unbalancing) and lack of testing makes this game not worth playing atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamSXE Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 so if defenders win you take a hit? As we see, you are absolutely right. And we can do nothing. As a result, we don't set any battlepay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaptor-Face Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 misslabeling of buttons? should be "attack" instead of "support"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 misslabeling of buttons? should be "attack" instead of "support"? More like the game is confusing attackers and defenders, and placing them in one helluva mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 um... So, have i been supporting the WRONG SIDE!? ... im confused. I was trying to support the defenders.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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