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As of Update 14, Conclave has taken multiple hits to its norm. First DE patches the infinite wallrun and changes up the parkour element altogether. Now with 14.0.9, they had the "Oh so great" idea to nerf all damage to shields by 50% and damage to health by 25%.

 

Although this benefits the people who complain that "Conclave is broken" and "Being one-shotted isn't fair" but it takes away from the reward of people who grinded power-leveling their gear to be perfect for anti-tenno warfare.

 

All the regulars in conclave agree that conclave is balanced in it's own respect that you can counter being one-shotted by taking advantage of the parkour element. The parkour element also renders unfair tactics such as 'camping' useless by being able to be flanked in a moment.

 

However, all of this changed when U14 attacked. So, I, for one who has logged approximately 100+ hours in conclave alone, am boycotting Conclave until either:

 

-DE recants the nerfing and fixes all the bugs that have been remained unfixed since conclave was created.

 

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-DE implements a type of Mod/Weapon restriction like how Call of Duty or other MLG games have for ranked matches where specifc weapons and perks are outlawed and you may not enter the match with them equipped. Suggested restrictions are: No Quick Thinking, Reflex Guard, or AoE type weapons. Have Hysteria breakable in conclave matches alone because as everyone agrees, invincibility is completely unbalanced.

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Boycott boycott!

 

 

I call bullS#&$ on this thread. Really, balanced? Let me take out my Acrid and Ash and we will talk about balance.

We can talk about balance in conclave once it gets fixed. I'll use Zephyr and Sybaris

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You and me are not the issues here, but once you get in, majority of people will use Ash+Penta+Acrid.

No they don't to be honest. I've played more than my fair share of conclave matches. People don't use explosives anymore. You might get ONE person every month or two but that's it.

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Yes, let us boycott the half-assed first iteration of PvP in a PvE focused game that was only added because a vocal minority on the forums wanted it.

Then when the boycott happens, DE removes conclaves because of their lack of popularity.

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AbaliskInfinite

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At first it all made sense.

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Then CoD was mentioned.

Bans happen all the time in competitive games where competitive communities are looking to have fun.  I mean, in Pokemon you'd need to bring 1 or 2 pokemon to hard counter a single Pokemon, or build your team around said mon.  That would make the Pokemon 'uber' and banned from lower tier play.  It's essentially because the game becomes a paranoia field when you're not sure if one OP AF Pokemon is on the other guys team or not.

 

blahblahblah pvp blahblahblah smogon blahblahblah pokemon yadayadayada

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Shehriazad

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They wanna make PvP easier for the PvE folks. :(

You are insisting that PvP in WF takes any playerskill at all.

You pick the 10% of the gear that either instagibs or makes you immune to everything and you "pvp" with it.

How very hypocritic.

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Olematon.Mies

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You have to understand that they put restrictions on for a reason though. They made sure that the 'pro' players wouldn't have to worry about someone 'noobtubing' them and winning the match even if there is a huge difference in skill.

You also have to understand that...

 

#1 Warframe is not focused around PvP. They just added the clan battles as a PvP mode (which I dont really like, mind you) and the little that I have played it, it is reasonably balanced.

 

#2 without the noobtube the huge playerbase that CoD has right now wouldnt exist if the noobtube wasn't there. It gives the new players a chance to compete against the veterans despite it being hated by them. Imagine you getting some new pvp focused game and you join into a match with good players, with you getting killed over and over and over and over again. How long would you play a game like that?

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(NSW)LilVanu

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I like conclaving with friends... so nope.

Also they said they are going to rework the little parkour trick player used to do with melee weapons and wallrunning but infinite wall running is apparently a no-go because it conflicts with the level design...

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You are insisting that PvP in WF takes any playerskill at all.

You pick the 10% of the gear that either instagibs or makes you immune to everything and you "pvp" with it.

How very hypocritic.

He believes that he is true PvPer. I find that laughable in games like Warframe where i who doesnt play PvP at all ( never tried convlaves ) can oneshot him with no skill at all.

 

 

In games like Quake and UT you needed skill. In Warframe? You just need current meta or any of god mode gear.

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When ever I join a conclave, there are absolutely no people in it...ever.  So, either someone already beat you to the boycott, or no one plays conclave anyways because it was severely unbalanced to begin with.

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To those of you who are stuck with the mindset that Conclave is not and cannot be balanced, I offer a link to a COMPLETE GUIDE  FILLED WITH UNANIMOUS FEEDBACK OF HOW TO BALANCE CONCLAVE (that DE has not taken note of):

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/243533-things-that-needs-to-be-balanced-on-pvp-updated-u14/

 

To those of you who think that the "one-shot" meta is broken, I offer a link to a post explaining why the one-shot meta is important and should remain the meta:

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/274446-conclave-to-the-advocates-of-the-one-shot-nerf/

 

PVE players, you truly are misinformed.  Us conclave players are looking out for you and giving our advice on how to fix the game, DE just isn't listening or they're taking their sweet SWEET time with balance/fixing it.

 

Also, the PVE players in this thread are incredibly ignorant and rude.  Conclave is completely broken right now because of balancing issues BUT MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE BUGS THAT ARE LEFT UNFIXED.

 

I understand that the conclave community is the minority, but we're pretty @(*()$ tired of being ignored and we're pretty @(*()$ tired of you guys treating US with no respect.  It's rude... and we're trying to get the the word to DE, but you all keep SHUTTING US OUT.

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RoboDoge

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To those of you who are stuck with the mindset that Conclave is not and cannot be balanced, I offer a link to a COMPLETE GUIDE  FILLED WITH UNANIMOUS FEEDBACK OF HOW TO BALANCE CONCLAVE (that DE has not taken note of):

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/243533-things-that-needs-to-be-balanced-on-pvp-updated-u14/

 

To those of you who think that the "one-shot" meta is broken, I offer a link to a post explaining why the one-shot meta is important and should remain the meta:

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/274446-conclave-to-the-advocates-of-the-one-shot-nerf/

 

PVE players, you truly are misinformed.  Us conclave players are looking out for you and giving our advice on how to fix the game, DE just isn't listening or they're taking their sweet SWEET time with balance/fixing it.

 

Also, the PVE players in this thread are incredibly ignorant and rude.  Conclave is completely broken right now because of balancing issues BUT MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE BUGS THAT ARE LEFT UNFIXED.

 

I understand that the conclave community is the minority, but we're pretty @(*()$ tired of being ignored and we're pretty @(*()$ tired of you guys treating US with no respect.  It's rude... and we're trying to get the the word to DE, but you all keep SHUTTING US OUT.

You can shout as long as you want, but i hardly believe that DE will shift their focus on reworking PvP when they have PC content, PS4 updates, Xbox release and many others on their hands,

 

 

It is not that easy as you believe. If things were so easy to balance we would have proper UI now after all this feedback about UI.

 

 

You seem to miss that DE isnt that big company and they maybe have 3 or 4 people working on PvP aspect.

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You can shout as long as you want, but i hardly believe that DE will shift their focus on reworking PvP when they have PC content, PS4 updates, Xbox release and many others on their hands,

 

 

It is not that easy as you believe. If things were so easy to balance we would have proper UI now after all this feedback about UI.

 

 

You seem to miss that DE isnt that big company and they maybe have 3 or 4 people working on PvP aspect.

No, seriously.  It's just number changes.  Look into that balance guide.  Number changes of damage and blast radius as well as the percentages of certain mods.  It's ALL JUST NUMBER CHANGES.

 

EDIT: Although I admit, the bugs they have caused are certainly MORE than just number changes, and those need fixing.

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You are insisting that PvP in WF takes any playerskill at all.

You pick the 10% of the gear that either instagibs or makes you immune to everything and you "pvp" with it.

How very hypocritic.

10%... I think you mean 100%. Fixed your typo for you. >:)

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