Update 14 Spoiled Strik Nerf?

[the_guckas]

I just noticed that Spoiled Strike appears to be totally nerfed now.  On my Prova, Maxed Pressure point + maxed Focus energy gives 123 Electricity damage, while maxed Pressure point + maxed Spoiled trike only gives 112 Electricity damage.  Is this an error in the damage stacking that occurred because of the update, or was this an intentional nerf?

 

 

Prova = 35 Electricity damage

Pressure Point = +120% damage

Focus Energy = +60% Electricity damage

 

Prova + Pressure point = 35 * 2.2 = 77 Electricity damage

 

Prova + Pressure Point + Focus Energy = 35 * 2.2 * 1.6 = 123 Electricity damage

 

Prova + Pressure Point + Spoiled Strike = 35 * 2.2 * 2 = 154 Electricity damage

 

Prova + Pressure Point + Spoiled Strike = (35 * 2.2) + (35 * 1) = 112 Electricity damage

[WoodHaven]

Focus energy has lightning damage, meaning it is increased by your pressure point/spoiled strike as well.  Spoiled strike is another base damage meaning its multiplier is still going off the base 35 rather than the new 77.  its not an error its how the multiplying has always worked a good example of this is the shotgun mod Blaze it gives 60base damage and 60fire damage, due to the increased base damage though it gives the fire damage an overall increase of 96%.

[OnyxAlchemyst]

Spoiled strike is a base damage mod, while focus energy is an elemental damage mod. In this case, focus energy gives more damage because it calculates off of the damage AFTER being increased by pressure point. Spoiled strike is a base damage mod, so it calculates its additional damage off of the original 35 damage base.

 

It's just confusing because the prova has elemental damage as its base damage.

 

*edit* tenno'd

Edited July 26, 2014 by OnyxAlchemyst

[(PSN)IIIDevoidIII]

Focus energy has lightning damage, meaning it is increased by your pressure point/spoiled strike as well.  Spoiled strike is another base damage meaning its multiplier is still going off the base 35 rather than the new 77.  its not an error its how the multiplying has always worked a good example of this is the shotgun mod Blaze it gives 60base damage and 60fire damage, due to the increased base damage though it gives the fire damage an overall increase of 96%.

This. The values are not exponential.

[WoodHaven]

This. The values are not exponential.

what?  60% of 60% is 36%.  36%+60%=96%

[Vyrn.]

Spoiled Strike is exactly how it's always been. Both Pressure Point and Spoiled Strike increase base damage.

Pressure Point raises the base damage up to 220%. With Focus Energy (+60%), that would take from the base. In other words, 60% of 220%, which is 132%. Pressure Point + Focus Energy both on Prova brings it up to a total of 352% Electric damage.

Pressure Point + Spoiled Strike together would increase the total damage to 320%. However, if you were to put Focus Energy on top of that, you'd end up with 60% of 320%, which is 192%. That would bring the total damage to 512% Electric damage

 

tl;dr Spoiled Strike is worth it if you have a lot of elemental damage mods on.

[(PSN)IIIDevoidIII]

what?  60% of 60% is 36%.  36%+60%=96%

The values are not exponential, they never changee the exponent value of 1, making it multiplicative. Unless I'm thinking of the wrong calculation method.

[the_guckas]

Yeah, you're right.  I guess I was just confused by the electricity damage.

 

Prova + Pressure Point + Spoiled Strike + Focus Energy = [35*2.2+35]*1.6=179