FrostWolf Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Concept: War Frame TiburonConcept Art by SilverBonesConcept Art by PantsAdvancehttps://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/37389-more-custom-warframes-w-artwork/?p=456625 Version Two by PantsAdvance https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/37389-more-custom-warframes-w-artwork-tiburon-added-18-jun-13/?p=699459By SUMA A little Lorehttps://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/39006-i-am-tiburon/-Its Spanish for Shark, but in Japanese it's Imperial Shark Empress which should be the major clue whom my inspiration for the Frame comes from-If you've read my SSNN thread you'll note I have mentioned a specific frame twice using water. Well here is my attempt to make her playable. Don't know how it'll work out but nothing ventured nothing gained I suppose.Role: A Female frontline tank/fighter meant to attack the enemy head on and break their formations.Health: 100 Max 250Shield: 150 Max 350Energy: 150 Max 225Armor: 100Shield recharge: 25Sprint: 1.2Polarities: 4x Scratch1x Offensive1x Bar -2x if Prime Verison :P-Alt Stats -using the current totals seen herehttp://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Warframes_CompareHealth 100/300Shield 100/ 300Power 150/225Armor 100Shield recharge 22.5Sprint: 1.1While she is less hearty then the Tank Bros, She makes up for it by being faster, and a larger energy pool. This allows her to engage large groups or powerful singular enemies quickly and effectively.SkillsRain Bullet 25 energy"Tiburon fires a high power projectile of condensed super heated water at the enemy knocking them down and delivering splash damage and stuns enemies around them"Her basic opening attack used to soften enemies up before a charge or can be used to barrage. It is a mid to long range move can use it to break up groups of enemies. It does extra damage to heavy armorDamage / Splash radius/Splash damageLevel 0/1 150 / 3 m / 45%Level 2 275 / 4 m / 60 %Level 3 350 / 5m / 80%Scathing Mist 75 energy"Tiburon creates a shroud of heated Mist that deals damage and saps vital energy from enemies inside the shroud back into herself"The shroud is not stationary it follows Tiburon around. Enemies will have their health leeched away while inside the shroud while also having their defense reduced. This is her Tanking move as this lets her wade into combat while keeping her health high. Is most effective in groups and allows the team to deal heavy damage in melee.Damage per second/Radius/ Duration / Armor Reduction/ Health restore per secondLevel 0 25/ 2m/ 6 seconds /Armor Reduction 25% / Heath is restored at 5 points per secondLevel 1 25/ 3m/ 6 seconds / Armor Reduction 25% / Helath restore 5 per secondLevel 2 50/ 4m/ 9 seconds / Armor Reduction 40 % / 7 HP per SecondLevel 3 75/ 6m/ 12 seconds /Armor Reduction 50% / 10 Hp per SecondHow the HP restore worksIf you have three enemies in the Mist being hurt by its effect, that's 15 HP back per second... The Mist like Snow Globe has no limit to number of enemies effected... If thier in range they get hurt.Combo with Snow Globe for Horde killing potential.Blood Boil 75 energy" Targeting the Moisture around and inside a target, Tiburon converts it all to super heated vapor in an instant"At first glance this is just a more costly less effective version her first skill that lacks splash damage and only stuns one enemy. However the secret to this move is to use it to kill an enemy. Their death then releases all that pent up Vapor and effectively creates a vapor bomb that devastates all enemies around them! Radius of the Vapor bomb if triggered is 5m meters and can only be increased by mods.The Splash damage of the vapor bomb is a % of the Max health of the target enemy.Damage/ Splash damageLevel 0 75 / 60% Max healthLevel 1 75/ 60%Level 2 125/ 90%Level 3 200 / 120%Example: If an enemy has 1000 health and I kill them with Blood Boil rank 2 60% splash damage that deals 600 damage to all surrounding enemies.Alt MethodGive the Move a AOE from the Target, If the initial cast doesn't trigger a Vapor bomb, enemies in a given area 3-7 meters are all afflicted with a Sap effect. If the Sap effect kills them they trigger a smaller less powerful Vapor bomb.This gives the move some forgiveness, if you have trouble pulling it off and can potentially lead to mining a crowd for quick DPS, But retains the Trick nature to it. Rending Cascade 100 energy"Tiburon gathers all surrounding moisture into a single powerful torrent of Water which annihilates all on impact and sweeps" This is Tiburon's ultimate, It is a forward nuke spell meant to deal heavy damage to those in the main area of the attack but also stuns and deals splash damage to those not hit by the main pillar of water.Damage is 1000 like all UltimatesMain attack radius/ Splash damage/ Splash radiusLevel 0 2m, /30%/ 5mLevel 1 2m / 30% / 5mLevel 2 3m/ 40%/ 7mLevel 3 5m / 60%/ 10m Helmet Kahuna -Hawaiian for sorcerer-"Increases the strength of Tiburon's powers but the strain effects her health"15% Power increase to all skills25% reduction to max healthTrademark WeaponFrozen QueenA Halberd that deals innate Freeze damageLooks like the Nejibana from Bleach -hint hint again- which is a Chinese Ji mixed with a Japanese Yari and a Trident for flavor.Here is some picks for reference -Not mine I can't draw stick figures straight-http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/062/0/2/Nejibana_by_KirasDarkLight.jpghttp://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/103/0/8/Nejibana_3D_by_mr_darkboy2010.jpgExcept the outer blades would be blue energy blades. maybe get rid of the tassel and the hilt would clearly be where the freeze chamber is.It's bladed so it does not ignore armor like the Bo and AmphisIt does deal knock down with its jump attack as well as freeze.Damage: 40Fire rate: 1.2Charge power: 125Charge speed: 11 Offensive Polarity.All stats are up for debate and changes, will appreciate feedback and critique. 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Xype Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 But we have Loki, the hammerhead shark :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 But we have Loki, the hammerhead shark :/ That's what Loki wants you to think... No one knows Loki's true form! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzibarr11 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 That's what Loki wants you to think... No one knows Loki's true form! a submarine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starberyl Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 He's actually a goldfish in a plastic bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Alt Ability list Alternate First AbilityCrest Breaker"Launching herself into the air Tiburon crashes down on a selected enemy, gathered moisture Vaporizing on impact to scatter and scold enemies."As opposed to Rain Bullet being a long ranged attack, Here Tiburon gains a movement attack that brings her right in the forefront of a fight. If no enemy is targeted Tiburon merely leaps forward the full distance. Since Tiburon is meant to be a more frontline fighter over Rhino and Frost more bastion approach this would get her into melee range easily and to combo with Scathing Mist.Cost 25 energyDamage/ Distance of the jump/ Splash damage/ Impact radiusRank0/1 150/ 10 meters / 30% / 3.5 metersRank 2 300/ 12 meters / 50%/ 5 metersRank 3 450 / 16 / 70% / 7.5 metersStuns/Knockdown on impactDoes bonus damage to heavy armor, Alternate 2nd SkillRegeneration 50 energy"Manipulating the moisture in the cells of her body, Tiburon can briefly supercharge the cellular structure, Allowing for high speed regeneration of tissue"Essentially while Scathing Mist works as an offensive attack that saps life from enemies, this Alternative imparts a powerful health regen on Tiburon . This allows Tiburon to wade into more dangerous enemies that would quickly deplete her shields.HP regenerated per sec/ DurationRank 0/1 10 HP per second / 7 secondsRank 2 20 HP per second / 14 secondsRank 3 30 HP per second / 20 secondsUnlike Trinities Life drain -or energy vampire/Blessing spam-This requires no enemies to be present, thus can be used in lulls in fighting -Patch note... Trinity is the main healer, and this should be Tiburon's tanking move thus I have changed it to only apply to Tiburon and not fellow party members- Alternate 3rds Since while Blood boil runs on rule of cool -making an enemy blow the **** up.- It will be buffed slightly however to give options to people who likes options here is Two different abilities. Double whammy Blood Drink 75 energy "Manipulating the moisture within and around enemies in the Area, Tiburon Saps the vital forces out of surrounding enemies and gives it to herself and surrounding allies" An offensive spell meant to act as a way to give health back in a pitch and deal a decent amount of damage to surrounding enemies. The Range of the healing effect is 7 meters around Tiburon Damage/AOE effect/ Damage to HP percent -IE you 100 damage to 10 enemies with 10 percent conversion you'll all get back 100 hp- Rank 0/1 200 / 7 meters/ 40% Rank 2 400 / 10 / 60% Rank 3 500 / 15 / 90% Waterspout 50 energy " Generating a controlled source of moisture, Tiburon creates a volatile wall of water, that scolds and contains enemies foolish enough to try to ford it" A defensive skill, Tiburon creates a geyser/fountain of water that can cut off enemy advancements, Enemies they attempt to pass through it will be lifted in the spout and be vulnerable to damage as their health is slowly chipped away. It's damage is fairly low and it's size is relatively small you'll need to think where you place them. but it makes up for it with its duration. Damage per second/ Size/ Duration Rank 0/1 50 / 1m / 10 seconds Rank 2 75 / 1.5 meters / 20 seconds Rank 3 100/ 2 meters / 30 seconds Tiburon may only have three Water spouts summoned at a time Alternate Fourth Heaven's Favor 100 energy " Channeling vital essence into a mass of moisture, Tiburon creates a cloud to shower the battlefield in a Blanket of rain which invigorates her and fellow Tenno and weaken Enemies." It is a utility move much like Loki's Radial disarm or Trinity's Blessing deals no damage directly. It has the longest duration of a Ultimate, 45 seconds, and covers an area of 20 meters, only mods will effect these as leveling the skill will not. While under the Rain, Allies are imparted a Natural health Regen and an Attack power boost. Enemies suffer an attack power reduction and a loss of defense. -Bosses will negate half of any negative effects- This Ultimate revolves around, Turning the tide of battle and creating a battlefield that favors the Tenno. Health Regeneration per second/ Attack power increase/ Enemy Defense reduction Rank 0/1 20/ 10% / 25% Rank 2 40 / 30% / 50% Rank 3 60 / 60% / 100% You cannot recast until the original has stopped. Edited July 11, 2013 by FrostWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venarge Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I like the idea. But you maybe want to add a skill that includes some sort of super fast water gun that actually cuts though enemies ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konoichi Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 well well well who has watched bleach too mutch :Pbut a frame named tiburon would be sweat because i love the bleach tiburon ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) I like the idea. But you maybe want to add a skill that includes some sort of super fast water gun that actually cuts though enemies ;) You mean like Rain's move? -warning graphic violence... even though The tenno spilt in half all day long XD- Edited April 13, 2013 by FrostWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savan Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Ah lol... I just recently posted my water frame idea since I haven't heard of one even though the elemental concept is there. But still We can compare ideas nothing wrong with that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 Ah lol... I just recently posted my water frame idea since I haven't heard of one even though the elemental concept is there. But still We can compare ideas nothing wrong with that right? of course not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savan Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 of course not The forum is called New Fun Frame Idea: Water Element? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savan Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Double Post: When I think of this water unit and my water unit... they are both unique makes me wish that we have multiple units of same elements but use them differently... it'd be interesting though I doubt it would be supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) Anyone else? ! Edited April 13, 2013 by FrostWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) Changed Rain Bullet's energy cost and range. Added Megalodon Helmet concept Edited April 14, 2013 by FrostWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savan Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Changed Rain Bullet's energy cost and range. Added Megalodon Helmet concept lol guess no one likes the water concept the ideas since its just your and my forums that only received each others opinions. Guess elemental frames became outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 I guess... that and maybe people are tired of water frames and want Ember, and Volt fixed before you have another elemental It might be there isn't a really obvious glaring flaw, like with Dis which I admit i didn't think much o fthe moves or role when i thought it up. I figured someone would cite Blood Boil as OP but it's meant to be a high level damage dealer in Upper levels where enemies have insane amounts of health. and has the cavate that it does low damage and must kill the opponent to get the sweet part. I did try to study the other frames,Make her stats reasonable, make moves that were unique... Maybe the lack of critism is there isn't much to critque... which just boggles my mind if i somehow pulled that off. sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 BubbleBeam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyworld Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 This sounds really cool - a water based frame would be awseome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savan Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I guess... that and maybe people are tired of water frames and want Ember, and Volt fixed before you have another elemental It might be there isn't a really obvious glaring flaw, like with Dis which I admit i didn't think much o fthe moves or role when i thought it up. I figured someone would cite Blood Boil as OP but it's meant to be a high level damage dealer in Upper levels where enemies have insane amounts of health. and has the cavate that it does low damage and must kill the opponent to get the sweet part. I did try to study the other frames,Make her stats reasonable, make moves that were unique... Maybe the lack of critism is there isn't much to critque... which just boggles my mind if i somehow pulled that off. sigh To be honest I really don't think Volt needs to be fixed... Everyone else plays something other than Volt, but don't know the beauty its power holds. Anyone who says Overload is the only useful ability and all his abilities are purely situational are ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mijouli Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 A water frame :D Something I would really like to see. Especially with these cool skills. I would love to see some kind of art about her look :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferriwind Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Like your ideas but Blood Boil is a joke. For 75 energy, you need to deal a finishing blow of 50 damage to an enemy to make them explode and do aoe damage of a percentage of their likely miniscule health? >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Like your ideas but Blood Boil is a joke. For 75 energy, you need to deal a finishing blow of 50 damage to an enemy to make them explode and do aoe damage of a percentage of their likely miniscule health? >.> No It does damage based on thier Maximum Health I gave an example If you killed an enemy with a Max health of 200 with Blood Boil Rank 2 -50% AOE You whittle him do to where Blood boil can kill him You deal 100 damage to all surrounding units in the blast radius You're thinking the 50% damage comes from the remaining health. A water frame :D Something I would really like to see. Especially with these cool skills. I would love to see some kind of art about her look :3 Unfortunately I'm no artist Edited April 15, 2013 by FrostWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferriwind Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Actually, I was referring to their low max health. With 75 energy, you can't spam it. You need to time it perfectly when an enemy is at low health and the damage isn't ever incredible unless you kill a boss or ancient etc.... The only thing that would make the skill good, is if it persists for a short duration in an area. A weak DoT could affect enemies in the area and if they die before they get out, then they explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostWolf Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Actually, I was referring to their low max health. With 75 energy, you can't spam it. You need to time it perfectly when an enemy is at low health and the damage isn't ever incredible unless you kill a boss or ancient etc.... The only thing that would make the skill good, is if it persists for a short duration in an area. A weak DoT could affect enemies in the area and if they die before they get out, then they explode. Doing 60% Max health damage of like health units is pretty impressive if you do it smart an do it in a crowd of like health individuals It's a trick skill, It's suppose to be hard to pull off, Require you to think on your feet, Now I could add a utility aspect to it if the bomb doesn't go off If I made it spammable, It just be like its fore-cousin, Corpse Explosion I get what your saying that its too easy to screw up, All it takes is one of your buddies stray bullets or rushing in not thinking to screw up a good explosion now just making it and instant cast cold eliminate that problem. -If you can see the health bar you instantly hit them- Its a good crowd clearer cause 80% the enemies are going to be the same expendable grunts. with aroun the same health. Now the Bomb damage and radius could be buff more 85% - Maybe just make it 150%- I made it to be gamble attack, Your not suppose to spam it. Edited April 16, 2013 by FrostWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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