hijinks_the_turtle Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 ^ Question above. Are they good overall or is it just mastery fodder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekushiiandee Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 it felt like mastery fodder to me....the only upside was the fact that it was the first machine pistol to have 400 ammo cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzatuw Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 They're practically Dex Furis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mr.Meeseeks- Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 compared to the good secondaries? No. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 compared to the good secondaries? No. Not even close. If by "good" you mean "instant kill 1 shot everything". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirriky Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I plan to put punch through on these and use them as crowd munchers and weaken them all before a blade massacre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mr.Meeseeks- Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 If by "good" you mean "instant kill 1 shot everything". Yes. In most games the good weapons are the ones that can 1-shot kill everything in the lower level range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexSol Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 AkZani have almost the same attributes as the Dex Furis, but weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitPointPredator Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 They are underwhelming. They even have an extended ammo pool because they are so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinamu Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 They are so good I leveled them to 30 with only 3 kills.*sarcasm table* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vastaren Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) They're practically Dex Furis While they feel like and handle like the Dex Furis/Afuris, statistically, they're no better, and in some instances, worse, than the Afuris. The mag size and reload is a definite plus if you need it to be that large, but the damage is underwhelming for a weapon that requires Argon and dedication. Puncture, impact and slash are all lower than the Afuris, giving a base physical damage of 13 compared to the Afuris' 15. Crit chance, crit damage and status are all equally low and unviable for specialist builds (Yes, I realise the AkZani have 5% status over the Afuris' 1%, but for me, that wasn't even a consideration for either). Firerate is comparable for both, but the AkZani 'feature' a 2.0s reload as opposed to the Afuris' 2.8. Whether this will actually help or not (since if you can't take down an enemy from a short burst of machine-pistol fire, I don't believe you should be using them on that enemy anyway) is up to you, but alternative and comparable-tier machine pistols like the Akstiletto with a 1.1s reload blow this feature clear out of the water. I personally disliked it since even decked out with Hornet Strike, Barrel Diffusion and Lethal Torrent, it barely got me over the 10 minute mark on Apollodorus before I realised I needed help taking down tough guys and the AkZani just wasn't cutting it. It might work for you, though, if you like putting up sustained fire to chip away at enemies without worrying about reload time and mag size too much, but from an end-game player's perspective, it's underwhelming to say the least, with low damage potential. It can potentially be a decent investment, but right now, I'm not seeing it. However, if you do manage to get one as a mid-game player, and don't have the Afuris/Dex Furis/any other comparable machine pistol duo, it's worth levelling to 30 to get you through. Just don't feel obliged to spend forma on it if you're strapped for resources. Edit: Also, "AkZani" is its own plural, just like "Tenno" and "Grineer". Omg my OCD. Edited July 28, 2014 by Vastaren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yes. In most games the good weapons are the ones that can 1-shot kill everything in the lower level range. Damage isn't everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwjp Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Damage isn't everything. but its a pretty big plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirriky Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Figured I would have fun and double the magazine http://goo.gl/X1fg2a Gotta try this when I get them to rank 30 Edited July 28, 2014 by cam-o-flage20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 but its a pretty big plus A shotgun that has an insane damage per shot can still be crap when pit up against an extremely fast firing SMG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Just level for mastery, they are not that good even compared to other similar smgs. Besides they look like cordless screwdrivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taletreader Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Compared to the AkLato... I'm pretty sure they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlebbyMilliner Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 They are nearly identical to the AFuris, but with more mag capacity, faster reload, and a much higher status chance. I notice there is no muzzle rise either, just a big spray. Burst firing results in fairly accurate medium range shots. The Dex Furis are also identical, but have a slightly boosted crit chance. But that's a limited weapon and not everyone has it. And of course it's crafting recipe is totally different. AFuris: 105,000 credits, 1500 ferrite, 600 alloy plate, 800 salvage, 8 neurodes, and orokin cell and 36 hours. AkZani: 40,000 credits, 1500 salvage, 1000 polymer, 2 morphics, 2 argon crystals, and 12 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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