Cesvela Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Why nerf the only good weapons we had agaist the OP of all OP hell we call spectors? The dam Cosmic Spectors are stacked beyond stacked and now nerfed the multipliers we had against them? Whats your guys thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 What? Provide more info before complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesvela Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 What? Provide more info before complaining. Reduced the damage multipliers across multiple weapons in an effort to provide a more balanced playing field across all weapons. Details of these weapons involved:Boltor damage multiplier reduced from 2.0 to .75 Acrid damage multiplier from 1 to .25 Damage multipliers for the Amprex, Brakk, Drakgoon, Karak, Hind, Marelok, Mutalist Quanta, Tysis, AkLato, Burston Prime, Lato, Braton, Tetra, Tigris all normalized (no more arbitrary multipliers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Specters OP? lol. I more worried about other players. Or more specifically ash. I do not enjoy consistently being sniped from the other side of the map with a homing missile of doom. Don't dabble in black magic kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Reduced the damage multipliers across multiple weapons in an effort to provide a more balanced playing field across all weapons. Details of these weapons involved:Boltor damage multiplier reduced from 2.0 to .75 Acrid damage multiplier from 1 to .25 Damage multipliers for the Amprex, Brakk, Drakgoon, Karak, Hind, Marelok, Mutalist Quanta, Tysis, AkLato, Burston Prime, Lato, Braton, Tetra, Tigris all normalized (no more arbitrary multipliers). Do you know how annoying it is to be successfully running through the match and then all of a sudden A rhino prime comes up with an acrid and instant toxic proc on ya. it's not specters that were OP. It was the gun and players who held them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 im sure this is just a small step in the endless stairway that is balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesvela Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Apparently not many read the hotfixes and not many felt the wrath of the 10 spectors at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miyamojo Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Boltor damage multiplier reduced from 2.0 to .75 whaaat?! why? as if Damage 2.0 didn't mutilate my poor Boltor enough :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.ThanksFrost- Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Guies its not that hard. Take out powers. Take out explosives. No scaling system or make weapons pickup based and everyone starts wit the same weapon or can choose between a shotty/sniper/rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesvela Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Guies its not that hard. Take out powers. Take out explosives. No scaling system or make weapons pickup based and everyone starts wit the same weapon or can choose between a shotty/sniper/rifle. what i have to say to that solves your issue, AHURMMM Go play COD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Guies its not that hard. Take out powers. Take out explosives. No scaling system or make weapons pickup based and everyone starts wit the same weapon or can choose between a shotty/sniper/rifle. I'd be so bored I'd become a plank of wood. what i have to say to that solves your issue, AHURMMM Go play COD CoD has killstreaks. That alone makes it incredibly unbalanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesvela Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 I'd be so bored I'd become a plank of wood. CoD has killstreaks. That alone makes it incredibly unbalanced. my point exactly nothing is perfectly balanced. also abilitys is what made warframe in general fun for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Just turn everyone into unranked Excaliburs with MK-1 Bratons and Skanas and be done with it. Exactly half of the conlcave-playing community loves, and the other half hates, every change they've made from the looks of things. This is what happens when you beg for PvP in a PvE game. To be fair DE always intended to put PvP into the mix. It just came way earlier then intended because people whined and whined about it. Which is why we have the clusterfudge of a PvP system thats as unbalanced as it is because it was implemented long before it was ready or intended to be in place. I don't even really care about PvP and never have but I dabble in it from time to time to see how it goes and for the lulz. Honestly its getting better now DE is throwing some semblance of balance into it. Needs a tonne of work but I've actually had fun with DS conflicts at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Apparently not many read the hotfixes and not many felt the wrath of the 10 spectors at once. Nope, read the hot fix and I'm aware shuriken got nerfed for DS. Still have less of a problem with 10 specters then one or two players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesvela Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Nope, read the hot fix and I'm aware shuriken got nerfed for DS. Still have less of a problem with 10 specters then one or two players. I should take you into one with 3 rhinos and the rest trinitys with pentas and see how long you last without an op frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Normalizing everything to be exactly equal is a false balance Customization is what makes things interesting Balance is harder but the game will be better off for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 my point exactly nothing is perfectly balanced. also abilitys is what made warframe in general fun for me It doesn't mean they should leave it like that. If Conflicts worked like before u14 then you would have a viable reason to complain. But the problem is now we have to face players with their own load outs and it just happened that the acrid was insanely powerful against everything for being a sidearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I should take you into one with 3 rhinos and the rest trinitys with pentas and see how long you last without an op frame. I didn't say specters weren't a threat, I just said I don't find them OP in most instances. I'd rather face exactly what you described before as specters then as players. Specters are easily duped. Players, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I didn't say specters weren't a threat, I just said I don't find them OP in most instances. I'd rather face exactly what you described before as specters then as players. Specters are easily duped. Players, not so much. 4 Valkyrs for revival and backup gets incredibly annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezairin Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 How do you balance "incredible&awesome"? Why not just play CoD or BF instead? Castrating all the frames doesn't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LascarCapable Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thread cleaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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