PeripheralVisionary 1,064 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Question. The only reason nobody made steam about the Prova was because no one cared for it. Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII 15,518 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Who said they are all going to be Wraith'd Vandal'd and Primed? That's also the same question you can use for any market weapon. What's the point of offering the Boltor if you can get the prime version? Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLizalfos 384 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 To show that you've been in/are in a Clan. Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII 15,518 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 To show that you've been in/are in a Clan. That's good enough for me. :P Link to post Share on other sites
Brahmastra 4,603 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 - 10o points. - they (used) to be good. Link to post Share on other sites
TrinityPrime 6,745 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Assuming everything is getting a wraith/vandal/prime, at the current rate of introduction, and ignoring new weapons added to clan tech, I'd expect to see clantech weapons/frames all become prime/vandal/wraith/dragons over the next decade. Link to post Share on other sites
PeripheralVisionary 1,064 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Who said they are all going to be Wraith'd Vandal'd and Primed? That's also the same question you can use for any market weapon. What's the point of offering the Boltor if you can get the prime version? The min max urge is strong and I feel frankly that there should be a limit. Namely, no more clantech variant. Edit:I then thought, "wouldn't I be gimping myself by destroying all possibilities for an upgrade in that case?" Edited July 30, 2014 by PeripheralVisionary Link to post Share on other sites
Archeyef 3,307 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Regarding primes? Clan weapons are easier to get. But you're right. We should just eschew all non prime weapons even in the market because they all might get primes eventually. Oh wait. Link to post Share on other sites
izzatuw 10,984 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 - Mastery points - Has no RNG involved - Because they're better than most market weapons - Because Prova is generally crap compared to other weapons, same as Tetra. And... - Marelok - Castanas - Nikana - Ogris - Ignis - Grinlok I can make a whole list but do I really need to? People do make it but I doubt anybody bothers keeping it unless it was worthwhile. Link to post Share on other sites
PeripheralVisionary 1,064 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 - Marelok - Castanas - Nikana - Ogris - Ignis - Grinlok Those weapons are actually worth formaeing. Then you got the Spectra. Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII 15,518 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Those weapons are actually worth formaeing. Then you got the Spectra. Still want my Marelok Wraith... >.> Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade343 13,108 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Those weapons are actually worth formaeing. Then you got the Spectra. Someone killed Ambulas with a Spectra (One Forma). Link to post Share on other sites
PeripheralVisionary 1,064 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Someone killed Ambulas with a Spectra (One Forma). How many hours did it take him? Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade343 13,108 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) How many hours did it take him? One minute and forty seconds, if I remember correctly. EDIT: Actually forty-two seconds. Edited July 30, 2014 by Renegade343 Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII 15,518 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 How many hours did it take him? I can get about a 3k DPS with one forma, I say it's possible to do it quickly enough. Link to post Share on other sites
izzatuw 10,984 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Those weapons are actually worth formaeing. Then you got the Spectra. If they're worth using that is. Problem with Prova and Spectra is that they need a buff. It's not decent enough. And you're saying that two weapon determines if clan tech is worth it or not? Well according to you that is. Also in terms of mastery we only have 8 Wraiths and Vandals in total which are now -poof- gone. Link to post Share on other sites
SSI_Kryptix 329 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 FOR MORE MASTERY POINTS Link to post Share on other sites
holdenagincourt 855 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Who said they are all going to be Wraith'd Vandal'd and Primed? That's also the same question you can use for any market weapon. What's the point of offering the Boltor if you can get the prime version? Clan weapons should be different in my opinion, as they require many more resources (and I'm including all of the dojo costs in that statement) and a forma. There should be non-Prime, Vandal and Wraith weapons that are safe to use forma on, and I think clan tech is the correct place for this. Many clan weapons are very strong as well, so it's safe to say that a Marelok Wraith or an Amprex Vandal are unnecessary. These are obviously normative statements, and I confess that, to begin with, I really dislike DE's habit of releasing objectively better versions of many weapons as time goes by. But fighting against that is a lost cause and I'd just like the investment into clan tech to be a safe one. Link to post Share on other sites
izzatuw 10,984 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Clan weapons should be different in my opinion, as they require many more resources (and I'm including all of the dojo costs in that statement) and a forma. There should be non-Prime, Vandal and Wraith weapons that are safe to use forma on, and I think clan tech is the correct place for this. Many clan weapons are very strong as well, so it's safe to say that a Marelok Wraith or an Amprex Vandal are unnecessary. These are obviously normative statements, and I confess that, to begin with, I really dislike DE's habit of releasing objectively better versions of many weapons as time goes by. But fighting against that is a lost cause and I'd just like the investment into clan tech to be a safe one. Well those weapons are limited and only available to those who did the event. And the boost aren't crazy like double fire rate, 50% faster reload speed, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLordX2 4,408 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Who said they are all going to be Wraith'd Vandal'd and Primed? That's also the same question you can use for any market weapon. What's the point of offering the Boltor if you can get the prime version? Boltor and Boltor Prime can give you Affinity, both of them. Link to post Share on other sites
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