Number39 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Or against any infested defense for that matter. I really hope it's not intended for me to struggle at wave 4 every time. Ogris was the vast majority of my fun here. I suspect it has to do with the Volatile Runners blowing up on death now according to personal experience and from seeing everyone else's issues. Please move this up on the list of priorities DE. I've waited long enough since U14 first came. I just want to solo to like wave 35 and beyond again. My favorite weapon is now comparable to a Skana in ODD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 wait wat Mind if we see your build? Because my ogris hasn't been having any issues with damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 well ogris has worked perfect me, no problems here except explosive suicide XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoffmode Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Remove gas damage from your Ogris. Also, idk how it was fun for you to solo to wave 35-40. I was falling asleep every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number39 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) wait wat Mind if we see your build? Because my ogris hasn't been having any issues with damage. This isn't the best build: http://imgur.com/W9EgHHK I don't have much forma. Even unranked and unmodded I could still get pretty far. Regardless of my mediocre build, I shouldn't have gone from making it to wave 35 pre-u14 at the very least to failing at wave 4 every single time post-u14. Remove gas damage from your Ogris. Also, idk how it was fun for you to solo to wave 35-40. I was falling asleep every time. I'm not using gas. :/ And I like the suspense and kersplosions, and seeing how far I can get before going back and tweaking things to get better results next game, and the power leveling and such. Edit: Again, I think it's the Volatile Runners. Edited July 31, 2014 by Number39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoffmode Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Actually, yeah, volatile runners explode when you kill them and damage the pod - making high level defense problematic. Don't know if it's a bug or that's what DE intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Infested take effort? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number39 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Infested take effort? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT??? I don't struggle at wave 4 with T3 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number39 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Actually, yeah, volatile runners explode when you kill them and damage the pod - making high level defense problematic. Don't know if it's a bug or that's what DE intended. I hope it's unintended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't struggle at wave 4 with T3 defense. Well infested are actually a viable faction now You cant afford to let them get close to the pod Can you solo a T 3 def for 35 waves with just the ogris as easily as with infested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number39 Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Well infested are actually a viable faction now You cant afford to let them get close to the pod Can you solo a T 3 def for 35 waves with just the ogris as easily as with infested? Touche, but the Volatile Runners shouldn't be that threatening before i even get to the first extraction. I have a suspicion that the runners are doing a bit of the high damage I'm doing to them back to the cryo. I agree with you, but the runners should be toned down a bit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Touche, but the Volatile Runners shouldn't be that threatening before i even get to the first extraction. I have a suspicion that the runners are doing a bit of the high damage I'm doing to them back to the cryo. I agree with you, but the runners should be toned down a bit there. The damage they deal scales now So eventually theyll reach a point where id assume they can just 1 hit the pod if theyre by it Its probably best to use a CC frame that can keep things away from the pod while you shoot or bring another person just to play decoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 It is fully intended for violated infested to explode when taking damage. Except for you slicing them with melee. So either vortex further away and use bastille more often. Also ancient healers and ancient disrupters have auras that heal and reduce AOE damage by a huge amount. You will need an alternate precision weapon to off those first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpite Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Or against any infested defense for that matter. I really hope it's not intended for me to struggle at wave 4 every time. Ogris was the vast majority of my fun here. I suspect it has to do with the Volatile Runners blowing up on death now according to personal experience and from seeing everyone else's issues. Please move this up on the list of priorities DE. I've waited long enough since U14 first came. I just want to solo to like wave 35 and beyond again. My favorite weapon is now comparable to a Skana in ODD. Yea, I see a problem right there. I hope DE makes that kind of thing impossible to do personally. Edited August 1, 2014 by DSpite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashiki Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Yea, I see a problem right there. I hope DE makes that kind of thing impossible to do personally. If you have the skill, strategy and gear to last up to 40+ waves solo, why shouldn't you be able to? Some Tenno prefer to be alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavienh5 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Or against any infested defense for that matter. I really hope it's not intended for me to struggle at wave 4 every time. Ogris was the vast majority of my fun here. I suspect it has to do with the Volatile Runners blowing up on death now according to personal experience and from seeing everyone else's issues. Please move this up on the list of priorities DE. I've waited long enough since U14 first came. I just want to solo to like wave 35 and beyond again. My favorite weapon is now comparable to a Skana in ODD. mind if i shoot u with ogris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffle Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 It's not the weapon, it's the location you're killing the exploding orange guys at. Vortex off to the side and you solve the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro3Display Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) was passing by and saw this..... cant be unseen violated infested ontopic: runners started to give out decent damage on a pod, yes, and as it was said only way is to keep them away.... for now Edited August 1, 2014 by Pro3Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrumitsumi Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 there was also a bug that im not sure if it was fixed or how it happes that makes the ogris and all the other explody things deal damage to cryo pods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low1991 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I don't struggle at wave 4 with T3 defense. wait... T3 as in Tier 3 Defense Void?!... there's infested-type mission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number39 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 The damage they deal scales now So eventually theyll reach a point where id assume they can just 1 hit the pod if theyre by it Its probably best to use a CC frame that can keep things away from the pod while you shoot or bring another person just to play decoy You're missing the point. This isn't about scaling, this is about not making it to wave 5. It is fully intended for violated infested to explode when taking damage I know they're supposed to blow up when they die, that isn't why I'm here. Yea, I see a problem right there. I hope DE makes that kind of thing impossible to do personally. Don't knock it til you try it. was passing by and saw this..... cant be unseen ontopic: runners started to give out decent damage on a pod, yes, and as it was said only way is to keep them away.... for now XD And I really hope the obscene damage done from Ogris-"violated" runners is fixed. there was also a bug that im not sure if it was fixed or how it happes that makes the ogris and all the other explody things deal damage to cryo pods I thought it was friendly fire at first, but it isn't that bug this time. I tried it without any infested nearby. wait... T3 as in Tier 3 Defense Void?!... there's infested-type mission? I think you're lost. I hope you find your way back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 You're missing the point. This isn't about scaling, this is about not making it to wave 5. Thats exactly the point Their explosions actually hurt now If you want the pod to survive you cant let them get close to it too often which is why i suggested a CC frame Eventually one will be on the pod and someone will kill it causing the mission to fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Somber_Cat Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Eventually one will be on the pod and someone will kill it causing the mission to fail One explosive runner can't 1-shot the pod, even at super high levels it ain't gonna do much. Just have Vauban/Nyx doing their CC far away from the pod to keep it safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 One explosive runner can't 1-shot the pod, even at super high levels it ain't gonna do much. Just have Vauban/Nyx doing their CC far away from the pod to keep it safe It scales with levels Levels go infinitely As some point it has to do enough to 1 shot the pod We might not get there but its certainly possible unless the damage has a cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number39 Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) I think runners should be able to 1-hit the cryopod at wave1 because levels, and scaling, and other stuff I don't understand. Edited August 3, 2014 by Number39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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