DarkLordX2 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Seriously, i have seem some comments about Ash saying he is the worse Warframe, along with Oberon, anyway people complain about Ash insta-kills in PvP. I really don't understand why some people hate Ash. I like him, he looks badass and he is some kind OP. PD: I own all the Warframes. Edited August 1, 2014 by DarkLordX2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--JoeTheBanshee Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Most endgame content requires tactical and utility abilities. Oberon and Ash are not the best choices when it comes to those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoran_Stallion Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Its because of Blade Storm in PvP and nothing else. Also the fact that his damage abilities scale less effectively than other warframes, but post-buff that's been mostly addressed. So mostly, PvP butthurt and hate. For both, it tends to be spam 4. A good Oberon is hard to come by (renewal and Hallowed Ground are your friend), a good Ash even more so (Smoke Screen has stun for a reason)! However most builds entail 4 spam anyway, so in the end gameplay gets boring, tedious, and repetitive. Edited August 1, 2014 by UpgradeInProgress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost.Umbra Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 My Oberon pwns @ high levels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRevan84 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 My Oberon pwns @ high levels... My question is what do you concider "High" level cuz i concider it enemy levels 200 and above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ash is hilariously strong, so I'm not sure why people complain about him. Oberon, however, is terrible and in dire need of some buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordX2 Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ash is hilariously strong, so I'm not sure why people complain about him. Oberon, however, is terrible and in dire need of some buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFury30 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 :) rhino all the way. high shields, high health, and one bad-&#! attitude.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBurritoSlayingTaco Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ash is hilariously strong, so I'm not sure why people complain about him. Oberon, however, is terrible and in dire need of some buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 He used to be Ninja but that went up in Smoke Now hes just Ash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoran_Stallion Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 :) rhino all the way. high shields, high health, and one bad-@$$ attitude..Rhino is a whole 'nother can of worms. Just don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsi-tan Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ash has no team utility. He brings absolutely nothing to a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKage Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I like Ash he for me its the only ninja in this game he had shuriken before they made into a secondary weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensignvidiot Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I use a blindrage+fleeting build on both (oberon does not come with hallowed ground) and find them both to be great. With bladestorm, in melee mode, the damage really skyrockets and Oberon is really useful with reckoning, especially with an equilibrium build. I get positive results from both in T4 Survival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordX2 Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 I like Ash he for me its the only ninja in this game he had shuriken before they made into a secondary weapon Secondary weapon? Are you talking about Kunai and Hikou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsyadpower Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 oberon with power range and efficiency is good at defense stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spybot121 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Each warframe has their own play style some similar to others, but in the end each is unique. Many cannot grasp Ash's unique play style which based on stealth and melee. Oberon is a support warframe like trinity and nekros but he is in need of a massive buff as the others are a little more balanced out now. Another example of people not liking unique play styles is Rhino as most of his abilities can come straight out of a Call of Duty game that many gamers today have background playing knowledge of and also he is the most used warframe in this game. Obviously not Rhino charge but Iron skin= painkiller buff in Modern Warfare. Rhino Stomp = stun grenades, Roar = Dmg buffs in Call of Duty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceski13 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Oberon, however, is terrible and in dire need of some buffs. And that is why he is next in line for the buffing machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I love my Ash, however Oberon I think would be fun but he needs the work that everyone is waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 They don't bring anything to the table in a team situation. Ash is great for solo, but his lack of utility and CC make him a less-than-ideal choice for team play, and oberon is just all around bad right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Well all the hate Ash gets in pvp is warranted, outside that its all up to peoples opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ash is a fun Soloer and arguably the best for PvP (Maybe second to Valkyr, but that will depend more on the player) I like to use him in Rescue missions with Duration Mods for Smoke Screen to farm Specters, i know i could use Loki but Ash is just more fun. And on Interception Missions with Blade Storm build for Power Range to farm T4 Keys i can cover 3 objectives. But that's it, pretty much all his usefulness for PvE, everything he does, there are other Warframes that do it better. I love playing Ash anyways, he is fast and have very high base attributes, he have a very offensive and interesting set of skills in my opinion. He is proving to be the best Warframe on DS PvP even after the Shuriken and Blade Storm "nerf". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ash is my favorite frame, he's just the most AWESOME frame ever! Oberon... I WANT to like Oberon, but I just can't get into him for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyzilla Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ash has no team utility. He brings absolutely nothing to a team. You don't need to bring anything to the team. Warframe doesn't require teamwork, it's just a game where you get stupidly powerful endgame weapons and lazily carve your way through the enemy. And/or get equally broken and powerful warframes. Teamplay doesn't even come into it, it isn't necessary besides just reviving downed teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noioiy Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 It's like asking, "Why do people hate pizza?" Preferences I guess? Or maybe they're just allergic to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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