(PSN)SancticuS Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 This constantly frustrates me during any Void Tower Defense. I always give a heads up when we start by typing "No lasers please" but no matter how many times you explicitly tell them not to. They still (or always one guy) use them even after killing several teammates numerous times. I can understand low ranking players doing it once since they might not know better. Still it took about one game for me and my friends during our very first void defense mission back in the day to understand that it was not a good idea killing each other. The only place I can find a use for them is for soloing missions. So am I just extremely unlucky with who I encounter or is this a persistent problem for you guys as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrance Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I use laser for the following reason: After seem Heavy Gunners, Ancients, and MOA lvl 50 being 1shotted by the lasers, unable to avoid them properly. It got my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeripheralVisionary Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Lasers are powerful tools if used correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) Instakill on any enemy. If you think they're only for noobs then you're wrong. Edit: I've seen Loki players clear whole waves with a decoy and a laser. Edited August 1, 2014 by vaugahn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobWasHere Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Why people use them? High damage/hold with radiation proc. You are just unlucky to stand when I fires. Used tactically they can wipe majority of room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzaku4489 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) You're right that it's not a good idea to kill each other. You're wrong to think that the solution is to avoid using lasers at all. The solution is to stay behind the consoles, instead of in front of them. Now, if you're getting jerks that like to fire them off between waves and fry people that are trying to loot, that's a different story entirely. Edited August 1, 2014 by Suzaku4489 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archeyef Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I usually only play void with friends, so I don't really run into this problem. We use lasers sometimes, sure, but we give a heads up before we activate them. We even have identifying names for which specific laser is going off. We do it because it's amusing to watch a laser cut a swath of destruction through an oncoming wave of Corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kiddplay13 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 If used with Communication it can save you (especially if you have a Radial Disarm Loki and the enemies are forced to come into laser range) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grillv20 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 The lasers are put there for a reason...if you get hit by them then thats your fault really for venturing outside and not getting to high ground fast enough lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habataki Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Wow, laser trap in defense mission...I almost forgot it exist, never touch it for almost a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Only the most elite of players use Lasers. Seriously guys. You guys, seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etsoree Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Instakill on any enemy. If you think they're only for noobs then you're wrong. Edit: I've seen Loki players clear whole waves with a decoy and a laser. Not that hard to do that with any 'Frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelan Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I love killing team mates with it, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-IX Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 The lasers are put there for a reason...if you get hit by them then thats your fault really for venturing outside and not getting to high ground fast enough lol. or just jump over it when it comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiraii Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 So that Nyx can absorb the damage from it and blow up the whole wave. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 or just jump over it when it comes Or roll under it. But has anyone run into the "invisible laser" sometimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 This constantly frustrates me during any Void Tower Defense. I always give a heads up when we start by typing "No lasers please" but no matter how many times you explicitly tell them not to. They still (or always one guy) use them even after killing several teammates numerous times. I can understand low ranking players doing it once since they might not know better. Still it took about one game for me and my friends during our very first void defense mission back in the day to understand that it was not a good idea killing each other. The only place I can find a use for them is for soloing missions. So am I just extremely unlucky with who I encounter or is this a persistent problem for you guys as well? the better question is why arent you BEHIND the lasers/cover like you are supposed to instead of running off and getting pwned out in the middle of the open field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 the better question is why arent you BEHIND the lasers/cover like you are supposed to instead of running off and getting pwned out in the middle of the open field Because believe it or not, some warframes are better used in the open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidathe Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) The lasers are put there for a reason...if you get hit by them then thats your fault really for venturing outside and not getting to high ground fast enough lol. Not enough telegraphing they're starting up so you can know they're running. :P As for venturing outside; Radial Disarm. On everything that lives. Edited August 1, 2014 by Sidathe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRevan84 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Lasers are powerful tools if used correctly. With Great power comes Great responsibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SancticuS Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 the better question is why arent you BEHIND the lasers/cover like you are supposed to instead of running off and getting pwned out in the middle of the open field When was the last time you had a pub game where all 4 never ventured outside the perimeter and everyone is 100% in tune with each other??? Please do tell because I have never ever seen a single game where that has happened. "Powerful / efficient when used correctly" seems to be the common denominator in the replies here. Obvious they come in handy when dealing with level 50's enemies but who needs lasers at wave 1-20???? Furthermore as I specified in my original post I always give a heads up when we start by typing "No lasers please. For the simple reason to avoid being lasered in the back without notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Because believe it or not, some warframes are better used in the open. hate to tell you... but a Frame with 50m max range (and thats ALL of them) can all be used while standing right next to the pod. safely. Run and gun is a fallacy on a lot of our maps. but by all means keep hamstringing your cell while you run off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) If it's a troll, ignore them so you don't team with them again. Since it's hard to tell if the lasers have been activated, I'd suggest being aware of where you're standing. The lasers don't go through the pillars or that planter/couch thing and they don't touch whatever is in the middle lane. Stick to those areas and you have a better chance of not getting cut. Edited August 1, 2014 by Noamuth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 When was the last time you had a pub game where all 4 never ventured outside the perimeter and everyone is 100% in tune with each other??? Please do tell because I have never ever seen a single game where that has happened. "Powerful / efficient when used correctly" seems to be the common denominator in the replies here. Obvious they come in handy when dealing with level 50's enemies but who needs lasers at wave 1-20???? Furthermore as I specified in my original post I always give a heads up when we start by typing "No lasers please. For the simple reason to avoid being lasered in the back without notice. if the choice is save the wave by lasering that Rhino off by himself OR Mission Failed what do you think is gonna happen, especially with newer players who might not know how to handle a huge pack of Corrupted Heavies in their face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 if the choice is save the wave by lasering that Rhino off by himself OR Mission Failed what do you think is gonna happen, especially with newer players who might not know how to handle a huge pack of Corrupted Heavies in their face? The OP isn't talking about a situation like this, they're talking about players that use lasers to troll the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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