Jeez...for A Second I Thought He Was Hacking... (Conclaves)

[Daz.]

so..Today I played with this guy

 

he has valkyr and boltor prime and dual kamas..

 

I couldn't kill him once...  :(  

 

later learnt  He has R / QT , Reflex guard , max armor , max shield  and max health  

 

AND yes...this has happened alot before UP14 but I could still kill him  but now (DAMAGE NERF) is one big probelm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

THERE GOES 600+ grakata ammo...   :(     

 

people might say your gun sucks then. but I tried it with casttanas with corrosive on it  as well...still took a LONG time.

 

even if my gun is badly modded...what about new players?

 

damage nerf was for new players  and its gonna take WAY long for them to kill people with OP mods..

 

So PLEASE DE...bring our damage system back and nerf the "NEED TO NERF" things in conclave.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

[zavienh5]

Soma and orthos prime FTW, just jump attack with orthos prime and wip dem a$$es with yo soma if your a cheap person

[Utarious]

Soma and orthos prime FTW, just jump attack with orthos prime and wip dem a$$es with yo soma if your a cheap person

Jat Kittag does it better.

[Kurrumitsumi]

 

even if my gun is badly modded...what about new players?

 

damage nerf was for new players  and its gonna take WAY long for them to kill people with OP mods..

 

the nerf as you call it was to give players a chance in pvp, so there not one shoting eachother so much

 

but onto annother subject, there is a bug that i have gotten where you spawn in and are unable to take damage of any kind, prolly what happened here, if you look at her health and sheilds you can see them going down/gone but it never shows actual damage and they will never die, even though i was running around with solid 0's noting would take me down, i decided to abandon because it didnt feel fair.. but thats what i think happened

[Daz.]

Soma and orthos prime FTW, just jump attack with orthos prime and wip dem a$$es with yo soma if your a cheap person

Trust me , its still gonna take a long time.

 

And I don't use othos prime and castannas usually but I needed to test.  :/

[Daz.]

the nerf as you call it was to give players a chance in pvp, so there not one shoting eachother so much

 

but onto annother subject, there is a bug that i have gotten where you spawn in and are unable to take damage of any kind, prolly what happened here, if you look at her health and sheilds you can see them going down/gone but it never shows actual damage and they will never die, even though i was running around with solid 0's noting would take me down, i decided to abandon because it didnt feel fair.. but thats what i think happened

Well..never ran into that bug, but I killed him after a TON of ammo and castannas and melee...It takes WAY to long and he is just standing there. If he was running and shooting, we would die.

[(PSN)alexgrig]

so..Today I played with this guy

 

he has valkyr and boltor prime and dual kamas..

 

I couldn't kill him once...  :(  

 

later learnt  He has R / QT , Reflex guard , max armor , max shield  and max health  

 

AND yes...this has happened alot before UP14 but I could still kill him  but now (DAMAGE NERF) is one big probelm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

THERE GOES 600+ grakata ammo...   :(     

 

people might say your gun sucks then. but I tried it with casttanas with corrosive on it  as well...still took a LONG time.

 

even if my gun is badly modded...what about new players?

 

damage nerf was for new players  and its gonna take WAY long for them to kill people with OP mods..

 

So PLEASE DE...bring our damage system back and nerf the "NEED TO NERF" things in conclave.

 

Thanks

using the reflect build, NO weapon can kill me(except for explosives and castanas). u shoot me and i reflect it and ur dead. no matter if u hit me from behind or front, up or down. now melee, that different. if u JUMP over me and to a ground slam BEHIND me, you will knock me down and you can kill me. if u try to slide with d ninkana FROM the FRONT, ur insta dead. it's a legit and old build. this build appeared the moment they released melee 2.0.

[Daz.]

using the reflect build, NO weapon can kill me(except for explosives and castanas). u shoot me and i reflect it and ur dead. no matter if u hit me from behind or front, up or down. now melee, that different. if u JUMP over me and to a ground slam BEHIND me, you will knock me down and you can kill me. if u try to slide with d ninkana FROM the FRONT, ur insta dead. it's a legit and old build. this build appeared the moment they released melee 2.0.

 Damage Nerf in conclave is all I can tell you.

[Kurrumitsumi]

Well..never ran into that bug, but I killed him after a TON of ammo and castannas and melee...It takes WAY to long and he is just standing there. If he was running and shooting, we would die.

you can see by the pictures that her health bar and sheilds are gone, like empty, that is a bug

and i can read what you guys were saying, they were obviously talking did they say that it was because of a build? or were they just confused, and if your grakata didnt do any damage i KNOW the castanas didnt because there one of my favorite weapons, i can see all 0's from the grakata, not even 1 dmamage

Edited August 3, 2014 by Kurrumitsumi

[Daz.]

you can see by the pictures that her health bar and sheilds are gone, like empty, that is a bug

and i can read what you guys were saying, they were obviously talking did they say that it was because of a build? or were they just confused, and if your grakata didnt do any damage i KNOW the castanas didnt because there one of my favorite weapons, i can see all 0's from the grakata, not even 1 dmamage

But I killed him later..when my ammo ran out... I used my melee 

Edited August 3, 2014 by thefruitninja

[Kurrumitsumi]

But I killed him later..when my ammo ran out... I used my melee 

i have a valkyr with all of those mods and i still take damage in conclaves, so unless all of your stuff had mods that reduce damage and your melee was some suped up prime i just dont see this as a balancing problem, it smells buggy, like really buggy.. even if your melee was the only thing that worked, its not intentional, therfor its a bug

[Daz.]

i have a valkyr with all of those mods and i still take damage in conclaves, so unless all of your stuff had mods that reduce damage and your melee was some suped up prime i just dont see this as a balancing problem, it smells buggy, like really buggy.. even if your melee was the only thing that worked, its not intentional, therfor its a bug

well...Let me explain this :

 

1 time I used only melee  and It took super long like always...he just staggered...

 

2 time I used whole grakata ammo clip then killed him with 3 melee attacks..meaning I weakened him with grakata and finsihed him off with melee

 

 

All my weapons we modded corrosive (corriosive is great against armor) still he was like superman. lol

[.Re-light.]

Damage nerf, broken mods just got a lot more broken..

     Played with him also yesterday, was trying out marelok with mag toxin.. Just one round that lasted about 1,5, 2 minutes of slashing, shooting, sliding...   About 2,3 clips of hits of zeroes.. Also had mag tox on kamas.. Stagger till boredom, but couldn't get him down. Mission impossible. With the dmg nerf, now I just wanna burn reflex guard users..

[RexSol]

That happens because Reflex Guard once it procs it will block forever even if stamina ends, so you have to wait before start shooting again, or else you will just waste ammo. That's why i prefer the Marelok, if the guy block a shot it's ok, i just wait for his block to come down and try another shot, with Magnetic + Toxin to break the QT+R cycle.

 

This update made the Conclaves so much worse, first the Parkour nerf, now the damage nerf, turning broken OP stuff even more broken OP, band-aid solution does not solve the problem. QT+R and Reflex Guard OP. 

If DE wanted to make PvP easier for the newbies and PvE folks, they should have balanced the broken stuff, instead of nerfing everything the veterans were good at. (Sniping and Parkour)

Edited August 3, 2014 by RexSol

[Auramaru]

Yesterday, I got into 3 different lobbies where the newbies were using QTR.  I didn't have much of a problem with it, I told them it was cheap and that they should take it off... they told me off... So I went 18-3 against 3 idiots using the cheapest combo in the goddamn game.

 

Then brought it up with another veteran and we wondered, "What if all the veterans made a pact to run QTR+Auto parry for 2 weeks?"  

 

It might get conclave newbies to actually want the crap nerfed.... considering they can't kill veterans WITHOUT those mods, so we would just become completely impossible to kill WITH those mode.

[Rakshal]

That is just... I can't even... just... *leaves room to cool off*

[Daz.]

Yesterday, I got into 3 different lobbies where the newbies were using QTR.  I didn't have much of a problem with it, I told them it was cheap and that they should take it off... they told me off... So I went 18-3 against 3 idiots using the cheapest combo in the goddamn game.

 

Then brought it up with another veteran and we wondered, "What if all the veterans made a pact to run QTR+Auto parry for 2 weeks?"  

 

It might get conclave newbies to actually want the crap nerfed.... considering they can't kill veterans WITHOUT those mods, so we would just become completely impossible to kill WITH those mode.

Very true  :D

[Daz.]

That is just... I can't even... just... *leaves room to cool off*

yeah...conclave is no longer fun with some people  :(    Thats why I usually play with friends and clan mates than joining a random guys game... 

[Daz.]

That happens because Reflex Guard once it procs, you have to wait before start shooting again, or else you will just waste ammo. That's why i prefer the Marelok, if the guy block a shot it's ok, i just wait for his block to come down and try another shot, with Magnetic + Toxin to break the QT+R cycle.

 

This update made the Conclaves so much worse, first the Parkour nerf, now the damage nerf, turning broken OP stuff even more broken OP, band-aid solution does not solve the problem. QT+R and Reflex Guard OP. 

If DE wanted to make PvP easier for the newbies and PvE folks, they should have balanced the broken stuff, instead of nerfing everything the veterans were good at. (Sniping and Parkour)

The thing is, I don't want to change my weapons just to kill this guy :(    Can't I just play with the guns, I wanna play with :(

 

(No Wonder Everyone has marelok xD )

 

Same with valkyr, Need to change to corrosive *leaves"  "FULL"    

Edited August 3, 2014 by thefruitninja

[(PSN)Alphapsykongaroo]

another thing is that if u have those 3 op mods in together, theres a chance you wont be able to kill with an automatic weapon no matter how many times you shoot. because when reflex guard procs, it also procs rage, giving more energy to fuel QT at the expense of nothing. not sure if they did a stealth fix on that recently though. the brief invulnerability phase when qt procs while staggered doesnt help either