[DE]Momaw Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) I try not to be relentlessly negative, but... In this case I must ask, with all due sincerity and sarcasm, what is the point of this weapon??The basic damage per second is okay. Not Great, but okay. But then it's got the highest ammo consumption in the game. And I don't mean "a little higher than other weapons"; at 40 rounds per second, it just... I can't even... The only weapon that that uses up more than half the ammo is the Twin Vipers, which compensate for their ludicrous inefficiency by having ludicrous burst damage potential. What are you buying with that 40 rounds a second? It isn't a crit-based weapon, the only area that primaries outshine secondaries by a large margin. It isn't a status based weapon since "Continuous" weapons only check for status once a second instead of once per damage event. It doesn't have range, or punchthrough, or AOE. The base damage type is the horrible Cold, leaving you nowhere to go except viral, blast, or magnetic, all of which are pointless without high status chance to back up them. The only unique thing this weapon does is turn enemies blue when you shoot them (okay?) and turn them into corpsicles when you kill them.... providing cover for their friends behind them, because you can't shoot through the corpsicle. Thanks? I feel like Glaxion's stats are somebody's personal vengeance against Glaxion's artists. The ART of the weapon is amazing. It's the perfect combination of style and menace, with more greebling than you can shake a stick at. But the stats make this thing literally unusable. Even with ammo mutation plus ammo scavenger, forget it. I tried grinding some XP on this thing and ran out of ammo half of the way through the mission even running around and opening every locker I could find.Why.Just.... Why. (edited for consolidation) Glaxion 2.0 Ammo consumption: 17 damage @ 15/second Slowdown effects: has a 25% chance per half-second of sustained firing to apply a stacking variation of the Cold proc, regardless of damage inflicted or actual elements equipped to the gun. Corpsicles: Have 1/10th the HP of the enemy which you froze, and when blasted apart (including by the Glaxion itself) can inflict Cold on adjacent enemies. I'd play that. Edited September 2, 2014 by Momaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--FORMA-- Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Wow, that's just cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Wow, that's just cold. What a pun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APBladeX Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Wow, that's just cold. Icy what you did there. OP needs to chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I try not to be relentlessly negative, but... In this case I must ask, with all due sincerity and sarcasm, what is the point of this weapon?? The basic damage per second is okay. Not Great, but okay. But then it's got the highest ammo consumption in the game. And I don't mean "a little higher than other weapons"; at 40 rounds per second, it just... I can't even... The only weapon that that uses up more than half the ammo is the Twin Vipers, which compensate for their ludicrous inefficiency by having ludicrous burst damage potential. What are you buying with that 40 rounds a second? It isn't a crit-based weapon, the only area that primaries outshine secondaries by a large margin. It isn't a status based weapon since "Continuous" weapons only check for status once a second instead of once per damage event. It doesn't have range, or punchthrough, or AOE. The base damage type is the horrible Cold, leaving you nowhere to go except viral, blast, or magnetic, all of which are pointless without high status chance to back up them. The only unique thing this weapon does is turn enemies blue when you shoot them (okay?) and turn them into corpsicles when you kill them.... providing cover for their friends behind them, because you can't shoot through the corpsicle. Thanks? I feel like Glaxion's stats are somebody's personal vengeance against Glaxion's artists. The ART of the weapon is amazing. It's the perfect combination of style and menace, with more greebling than you can shake a stick at. But the stats make this thing literally unusable. Even with ammo mutation plus ammo scavenger, forget it. I tried grinding some XP on this thing and ran out of ammo half of the way through the mission even running around and opening every locker I could find. Why. Just.... Why. On topic, what I think it needs to be useful is to be strong in utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistopportunity Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Icy what you did there. OP needs to chill out. I.. I.. I'm not good at puns :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborger1 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Although the weapon looks pretty cool, the impossible ammo consumption just makes me feel cold hearted towards it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLonestar Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Getting off the puns, I think it could be vastly improved if the ammo consumption was taken down a notch. With that in place, it would allow the weapon to be a very good weapon for corpus missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arKRazor Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I think ammo pickups need to be re-balanced around the max ammo capacity of your equipped weapons. Twenty rounds for the glaxion results in 0.5 seconds of freeze ray, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I've decided that this will be the last weapon I level up for mastery (unless it gets buffed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 the point of glaxion u ask ? hm.. they sneak peaked the weapon art and all ages ago so they had to include it in the game while innately gimping it so it doesnt make frost look completely obsolete all we need now is a mind control wave emitter, a radial disarm fusion mortar, and a radial blind minigun then balance is restored let the storm rage on the cold never bothered me anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korion Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Sounds like you better let it go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Having gotten it to rank 25, I can say that this is the only weapon I have ever used that ABSOLUTELY NECESSITATED the use of an ammo mutation mod. Even the Grakata and Wraith Twin Vipers PALE in comparison to this thing. And no, 1500 reserve ammo is not enough to get you through a mission. Nowhere close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakatone Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 hope it gets some sort of fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachino Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Sounds like you better let it go It´s a new weapon and needs balancing, that´s exactly what you shouldn´t do. We should propose some fixes. Like, reduce its fire-rate and magazine while increasing its damage, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 It´s a new weapon and needs balancing, that´s exactly what you shouldn´t do. We should propose some fixes. Like, reduce its fire-rate and magazine while increasing its damage, He/she was making a Frozen reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shion963 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Freezing enemies isn't unique to Glaxion, it's the new cold-damage death animation. You can shatter the corpsicles by meleeing or shooting at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftMeat Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Until the inevitable tweaking, it's only good for Ice puns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Until the inevitable tweaking, it's only good for Ice puns. Mother of god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rd0se Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Yeah. This weapon has horrible stats and it shows in gameplay. It really needs fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdee Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 the point of glaxion u ask ? hm.. they sneak peaked the weapon art and all ages ago so they had to include it in the game while innately gimping it so it doesnt make frost look completely obsolete all we need now is a mind control wave emitter, a radial disarm fusion mortar, and a radial blind minigun then balance is restored let the storm rage on the cold never bothered me anyway even if this thing WAS a good weapon, frost would still be useful on the basis of pretty large areas of attack, and like other tenno abilities, can be paired with a trinity to fuel unlimited energy sprees, unlike weapons which rely on slowly restored ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhux Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 The Glaxion is a good weapon... on Venus, not after. Beautiful, for once i had the feeling that would be fun again... Then i experienced its USELESSNESS. FFS DE, WHAT IS THAT POS WEAPON?????????????? WEAPONS ARE SUPPOSED TO KILL, NOT TO PREPARE ICE CUBE FOR YOUR NEXT DRINK DAMN IT. SO MY ADVISE DE, QUIT DRINKING AT WORK. Glaxion: Actual state: DAMAGE LESS S#&$. Seriously pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 the point of glaxion u ask ? hm.. they sneak peaked the weapon art and all ages ago so they had to include it in the game while innately gimping it so it doesnt make frost look completely obsolete all we need now is a mind control wave emitter, a radial disarm fusion mortar, and a radial blind minigun then balance is restored let the storm rage on the cold never bothered me anyway The "don't make Frost argument" is invalid. Look at Nukor. Kinda makes Nyx redundant, doesn't it? Still, I don't see many complaints about it. Not to mention, if you don't use Frost, what's the point in gimping the weapon? I don't get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Right, so: Glaxion 2.0 Ammo consumption: 17 damage @ 15/second Slowdown effects: has a 25% chance per half-second of sustained firing to apply a stacking variation of the Cold proc, regardless of damage inflicted or actual elements equipped to the gun. Corpsicles: Have 1/10th the HP of the enemy which you froze, and when blasted apart (including by the Glaxion itself) can inflict Cold on adjacent enemies. I'd play that. Edited September 2, 2014 by Momaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countess_Hapmuhr Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 The problem with this weapon is that it falls in the "awesome, but impractical" genre right now. I seriously love how it works though, making icecubes and smashing them with Fragor is divine. But, this weapon doesn't have any ammo economy, you can never get through a mission with it because of it's incredibly high ammo consumption and ammo pool. With ammo drum, you're somewhere in the 1500 range of ammo and that's neat. Only that with it's 40 ammo/s ammo consumption, that gives you ~37s of firing time. So clearly it will run out very quickly during a mission. 'but pick up some ammo drops!' I hear you yell, or "equip ammo mutation", sure I did that. The problem is that I'd still have to pick up around 60-70 ammo packs to refill the ammo pool and by then, the mission will most probably be over at that point. So yes, I love it's concept, but right now, you NEED to use ammo restores to even get practical REGULAR use out of this weapon and that's something I'm not on board with, especially not after having sacrificed two slots already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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