Tveoh Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Recently started to go through my weapons, and get builds set up for each of my warframes. Each one with a set of tools that helps to define the way that I play that frame. Yet.. when I looked over my Scoliac... I noticed a Huge over sight... With charge attacks gone, save for the glave.. The scoliac no-longer has any toxic properities, which was the big thing for it, and is still listed in the codex.. "The Scoliac Whip a nasty parasitic growth of sinew and bone that inflicts heart stopping toxin damage with each charge attack" It has no charge attack so no longer has any heart stopping toxin damage. This needs to be addressed and change the Scoliac to have an Toxin base damage or even viral so that its once again the weapon it was meant to be when i first researched and crafted it. ~ Tveoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Recently started to go through my weapons, and get builds set up for each of my warframes. Each one with a set of tools that helps to define the way that I play that frame. Yet.. when I looked over my Scoliac... I noticed a Huge over sight... With charge attacks gone, save for the glave.. The scoliac no-longer has any toxic properities, which was the big thing for it, and is still listed in the codex.. "The Scoliac Whip a nasty parasitic growth of sinew and bone that inflicts heart stopping toxin damage with each charge attack" It has no charge attack so no longer has any heart stopping toxin damage. This needs to be addressed and change the Scoliac to have an Toxin base damage or even viral so that its once again the weapon it was meant to be when i first researched and crafted it. ~ Tveoh But people actually like the scoliac as it is, its the best whip there is, no need for toxin damage, or get yourself a karyst dagger for the same result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCranky_BR Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 It has Toxin damage on Slam attacks. Coiling Viper, the stance that matches Scoliac's polarity, has a combo attack with Slam properties + 200% damage bonus. The only things that need to be adressed are the mod descriptions that mention charge attacks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLightCRO Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) its the best whip there is I would say melee weapon in general. I find the most broad and the most single target use from it. The tumbling king forces 100% proc slash so you have that. If anything else it needs at least a few more combos in the stance. Whip in all is more then great and is my primary weapon tied with scindo (where I use Scoliac 80% of the time). If anything else Scoliac should receive 5 toxic or viral damage standard on rest of the stats (something like Mire*). Edit: *Mire used to be pre dmg 2.0 Edited September 5, 2014 by ArcLightCRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tveoh Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 No saying the whip isn't bad, just either it needs some toxin base, or needs its description changed to match how it works with melee 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 It has Toxin damage on Slam attacks. Coiling Viper, the stance that matches Scoliac's polarity, has a combo attack with Slam properties + 200% damage bonus. The only things that need to be adressed are the mod descriptions that mention charge attacks... I came here to say this ^ Also to add that that IIRC, one of the whip combo finishers procs toxic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobLittle Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 But people actually like the scoliac as it is, its the best whip there is, no need for toxin damage, or get yourself a karyst dagger for the same result Codex says the whip is toxic so hush :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 But people actually like the scoliac as it is, its the best whip there is, no need for toxin damage, or get yourself a karyst dagger for the same result When there's only one other weapon in the whip category, there's not a whole lot of competition for the Scoliac to beat. But yeah, I think it should get some innate Toxin or Viral damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Recently got it in hopes of keeping it. I am disappointed however and will probably throw it away once maxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 It was actually Corrosive damage anyway. Scoliac's plentiful slash procs are gravy, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Or just chuck virulent scourge etc on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 But people actually like the scoliac as it is, its the best whip there is, no need for toxin damage, or get yourself a karyst dagger for the same result That's no reason for inconsistency. Either the description or the stats have to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 But people actually like the scoliac as it is, its the best whip there is, no need for toxin damage, or get yourself a karyst dagger for the same result Off topic Lecta>Scoliac On topic Im surprised someone caught this detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Alphapsykongaroo Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 is it just me or does the reach mod do nothing on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valafor Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 But people actually like the scoliac as it is, its the best whip there is, no need for toxin damage, or get yourself a karyst dagger for the same result Yeah but we only have 2 whips to choose from, and neither are really all that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLuke Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 As has been pointed before the slam attack makes for the codex description. Either way I agree that it should have toxin or viral as base. Having to smash the whip to de ground in order to extract the toxin seems ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLightCRO Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yeah but we only have 2 whips to choose from, and neither are really all that great. You are kidding right? Scoliac can obliterate most of the enemies I find and that includes heavy gunners, bombards and napalms in this. I have mine built around channeling and T3-4 survivals up to 30 minutes it's more then viable to 1-2 hit most of the things (gunners for example take 4 if no crits or tumbling king end proc combo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yeah but we only have 2 whips to choose from, and neither are really all that great. Both are great, one of pure dps and the other for stats now if you are comparing it to things like the power creep abomination of dragon nikana or crismon dervish pfff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Both are great, one of pure dps and the other for stats now if you are comparing it to things like the power creep abomination of dragon nikana or crismon dervish pfff. Only THE BEST BUILD matters to the shrieking crazies that inhabit the feedback forums, for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Only THE BEST BUILD matters to the shrieking crazies that inhabit the feedback forums, for some reason. "The Best" really depends on you I can use the best saryn builds and still fail her horribly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLightCRO Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 "The Best" really depends on you I can use the best saryn builds and still fail her horribly This is more then true. I for example don't use the Blind Rage/ Fleeting miasma build which pretty much melts down half the ship when used. I find skills used better for their utility then raw damage (same goes for stompedo, electric jesus, hentai porn and soundquake). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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