Somerandom17 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 So 300% weapon damage whirlwind isn't good enough for DE? I'm not complaining >:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazeth Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Broken Bull deals 3x dmg and can hit 2x when close enough, potentially dealing 6x dmg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiBBz Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Galatine was fun pre melee 2.0 but now i hardly use any heavy weapons now because they're of no use to me anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahadaya Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Broken Bull deals 3x dmg and can hit 2x when close enough, potentially dealing 6x dmg. That's one combo... on one rare stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazeth Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) That's one combo... on one rare stance. No one complains about Crimson Dervish... and the other two combos on C.D. are practically the same. Edited September 7, 2014 by Yazeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Atroxium Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Started using the Gelatine a few days before the new livestream, then they announced a buff for heavy melee. My concious is telling me where to go, but when they talked about stance rewamps or even switching them. I did get kinda scared. Gelatine stance, is perfect stance. I really like it, it feels badass on the field. It really does. PS: Cleaving Whirlwind already has this finisher attack. Quite the badass uppercut. Edited September 7, 2014 by Cpt_Atroxium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kiddplay13 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Galatine is a stupid weapon anyway. *Child's Voice* NO UR STUPID Back to OP: DE_Scott said he's looking into the Heavy Weapons to give them their 'kick' back Source- Devstream #36 Edited September 7, 2014 by (PS4)kiddplay13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nethaufer Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 *Child's Voice* NO UR STUPID *Child's voice* Ur FACE is stoopid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kiddplay13 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 They better buff Jat kittag with Galatine. -.- Jet Kitty doesn't get left in the dust. Jat Kittag is still a top contender especially with it's awesome CC and high attack animations (not speed but the actual animations) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZetraThorn Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) They better buff Jat kittag with Galatine. -.- Jet Kitty doesn't get left in the dust. Agreed. However I whip Jat kitag every now and then. It's fun to watch enmies flying around when you do the slam atack. I'm not saying that it is bad, however it kinda feel a bit sluggish. However i guess it is reasonable. Edited September 7, 2014 by Grayscale_Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptylerdactyl Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 eh, my friend made the biggest deal out of galatine before melee 2.0. he forma'd it about 5 times (not exactly sure how many times) or so for the charge damage 'meta' build everyone was doing then. it was garbage, i killed everything around him using other melees before he could even use his charge attack. when melee 2.0 came out he literally rage quit the game and sold his 5 forma galatine because charge attacks were removed. plus its current idle holding animation for it is ridiculous, it looks like you're parading around carrying a flag if you have constant weapon trails turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kiddplay13 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) plus its current idle holding animation for it is ridiculous, it looks like you're parading around carrying a flag if you have constant weapon trails turned on. 100000000% Agree. If it's a Heavy Weapon why can fragile Frames hold it like it's a 2x4? I demand they change it, to your Frame holding it with two hands in a slouched type stance. Something like: Edited September 7, 2014 by (PS4)kiddplay13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Similon Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) 100000000% Agree. If it's a Heavy Weapon why can fragile Frames hold it like it's a 2x4? I demand they change it, to your Frame holding it with two hands in a slouched type stance. Something like: -snip- That would make it harder, because Science. Keep the weight centered and close to the body, kinda like a Caber toss. Edit: Just had an idea for a combo... Edited September 7, 2014 by Similon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kiddplay13 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 That would make it harder, because Science. Keep the weight centered and close to the body, kinda like a Caber toss. Edit: Just had an idea for a combo... You're mistaking real world logic with a game where swinging your weapon makes you fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Similon Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You're mistaking real world logic with a game where swinging your weapon makes you fly. No I'm not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexRgisIocus Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 If Galatine, Gram and Scindo need buffs, so do long swords. Broken Bull already gives 3x damage so the heavy axes/swords are good as they are. Scindo Prime rumors for next Prime set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahadaya Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 If Galatine, Gram and Scindo need buffs, so do long swords. Broken Bull already gives 3x damage so the heavy axes/swords are good as they are. Scindo Prime rumors for next Prime set Considering how they do less damage, and have lower attack speed, No they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 In all honesty, I like the Galatine more now than I did before. As for buffs, 25% crit chance and 4x crit damage would be beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahadaya Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 In all honesty, I like the Galatine more now than I did before. As for buffs, 25% crit chance and 4x crit damage would be beautiful. Nah, double damage would just be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Nah, double damage would just be better.Simply doubling the damage would be rather boring. The crit route feels better to me, since then you have this big &#! sword swinging around without much control, but then if you hit something vital it hurts. It also allows for berserker builds to be more viable with it, shoring up its rather nasty attack speed. Crit buff > Flat Damage buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahadaya Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Simply doubling the damage would be rather boring. The crit route feels better to me, since then you have this big @$$ sword swinging around without much control, but then if you hit something vital it hurts. It also allows for berserker builds to be more viable with it, shoring up its rather nasty attack speed. Crit buff > Flat Damage buff ..Not really though. Because then with a crit buff it makes for less variety in good builds. It would become like a melee Soma. Only a crit build is good. That would be bad. Also, with a flat damage buff crit damage would go up drastically, along with channeling and elemental damage. It would be a win for erryone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexRgisIocus Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) @Jahadaya Gram, Scindo and Galatine have more base damage than any longsword aside from Dakra Prime and the same attack speed aside from Dakra, Mire and Ether Sword. With the broken bull combo the heavy swords/axe out damage any longsword aside from Dakra and Cleaving Whirlwind is a bit faster than Crimson Dervish as well. Again, they are fine. Oh and longswords are single target as well, while the the heavy swords/axe are multi target. Edited September 7, 2014 by RexRgisIocus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahadaya Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 @Jahadaya Gram, Scindo and Galatine have more base damage than any longsword aside from Dakra Prime and the same attack speed aside from Dakra, Mire and Ether Sword. With the broken bull combo the heavy swords/axe out damage any longsword aside from Dakra and Cleaving Whirlwind is a bit faster than Crimson Dervish as well. Again, they are fine. Oh and longswords are single target as well, while the the heavy swords/axe are multi target. Okay, read this post of mine : https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/286768-what-would-you-like-to-see-buffed-nerfed/ The thing is, yeah sure they out damage most long swords. But they should outdamage all long swords. The Galatine is the best heavy weapon and it's sh*t compared to the best longsword in terms of speed AND damage. It's the same thing with it and the best Nikana. People shouldn't be forced to a specific weapon type if they want the highest damage. There should be equal level top tier weapons of each type. And there aren't. Let's start by buffing heavy melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexRgisIocus Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) @ Jahadaya you cant compare Galatine to Nikana or Dakra. One, Dakra is a Mastery 6 locked Prime and second the Nikana(the regular not dragon) is clan tech Mastery rank 4, D. Nikana is mastery 8. Galatine is a market weapon with a simple Mastery rank 2 lock. And also heavy swords/axes shouldnt be direct upgrades to longswords. Fun Fact: Galatine outdamages D.Nikana (the melee with highest base damage) in both Dps and Dph during the Broken Bull combo. Edited September 7, 2014 by RexRgisIocus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemonFTW Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Didn't they nerf it from 20%crit chance to 10% crit chance to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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