Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 WELL, Um, not much here to explain... the nerf... well um... lets genrally discuss what you guys think...... MY opinion is that quick thinking was a more challenging mod set that cost a lot and took up 2 mod spaces and helped the more advanced players be more advanced... now it does almost nothing... I used to think of it as a equalizer... they are 2 not easy to get mods.... for a playing style above the people to obtain them, don't get me wrong a rank 1 with quick thinking is op but so is a rank one with rino prime and fleeting........ i've had to forma many a frame to hold quick thinking and the build i prefer.... now well time waisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahrzerkire Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 But quick thinking in relation to what? PVE? if so it was not nerfed. In relation to PvP it was hella cheap and has finally been brought down to standard. It never made better players better. It made random people invincible. It blatantly said to players "Oh! you have a great weapon amazing movement and a billion other things that should give you the advantage. HA sorry hes invincible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawaiirawrxDkys Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 errr mah gawd stop complaining about it easy mode jezz i never once had a problem and i never used QT+rage TL;DR if u need it you weren't ninja enough *zoren copters away* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawaiirawrxDkys Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 But quick thinking in relation to what? PVE? if so it was not nerfed. In relation to PvP it was hella cheap and has finally been brought down to standard. It never made better players better. It made random people invincible. It blatantly said to players "Oh! you have a great weapon amazing movement and a billion other things that should give you the advantage. HA sorry hes invincible." *slowly claps* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 they eliminated it from pvp awile ago... it didnt even work at all before this update for pvp so an educated player would understand that of course i didnt mean pvp XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 errr mah gawd stop complaining about it easy mode jezz i never once had a problem and i never used QT+rage I know you levi XD ive played with you quite a bit and you never once had a problem? because my quick thinking frame was their to revive you XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaLfrontier Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 errr mah gawd stop complaining about it easy mode jezz i never once had a problem and i never used QT+rage TL;DR if u need it you weren't ninja enough *zoren copters away* So you are the guy that I have to constantly revive after the 40 minute mark in T4 Survival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawaiirawrxDkys Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I know you levi XD ive played with you quite a bit and you never once had a problem? because my quick thinking frame was their to revive you XD like i said if you needed it you wern't ninja enough So you are the guy that I have to constantly revive after the 40 minute mark in T4 Survival acually i dont die as often as you think, I generally take my loki prime or rhino prime to t4s and i maybe die 3-4 times with loki and maybe once or twice with rhino MAYBE (sometimes i dont die) and thats going off the past week-week and a half iv been grinding on t4 survival with out using the QT+Rage crutch sooooooooo :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Jam Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 So you are the guy that I have to constantly revive after the 40 minute mark in T4 Survival acually i dont die as often as you think, I generally take my loki prime or rhino prime to t4s and i maybe die 3-4 times with loki and maybe once or twice with rhino MAYBE (sometimes i dont die) and thats going off the past week-week and a half iv been grinding on t4 survival with out using the QT+Rage crutch sooooooooo :/ QT+Rage works for survivability. I can solo T4 easily: ~Enter the mission, wipe out the enemies, wipe out vor, sustain some insane damage and get the princess!~ Seriously though, QT + Rage on squishies is pretty useful for end-game. Death toll in T4 so far: 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 acually i dont die as often as you think, I generally take my loki prime or rhino prime to t4s and i maybe die 3-4 times with loki and maybe once or twice with rhino MAYBE (sometimes i dont die) and thats going off the past week-week and a half iv been grinding on t4 survival with out using the QT+Rage crutch sooooooooo :/ how about being a tenno you should be able to handle enemies and grow stronger to fight against them, and honestly with qt even you with your skill lvl would have trouble pluss the builds with quick thinking become harder to do and alittle more complicated, I went to school with you i know that your mind cant handle things like that its okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 QT+Rage works for survivability. I can solo T4 easily: ~Enter the mission, wipe out the enemies, wipe out vor, sustain some insane damage and get the princess!~ Seriously though, QT + Rage on squishies is pretty useful for end-game. Death toll in T4 so far: 0 so honestly instead of nerfing quick thinking if anything it seems like they should just make it harder to obtain even though its pretty hard to get already XD newbs cant run rank 3 accounts and get quick thinking and rage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I know you levi XD ive played with you quite a bit and you never once had a problem? because my quick thinking frame was their to revive you XD /Cant resist Throw your chevi to him >Reference pun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 There should never be an option to become invincible. That's basic game design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawaiirawrxDkys Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 QT+Rage works for survivability. I can solo T4 easily: ~Enter the mission, wipe out the enemies, wipe out vor, sustain some insane damage and get the princess!~ Seriously though, QT + Rage on squishies is pretty useful for end-game. Death toll in T4 so far: 0 i completely understand survivability BUT this made you invincible. how about being a tenno you should be able to handle enemies and grow stronger to fight against them, and honestly with qt even you with your skill lvl would have trouble pluss the builds with quick thinking become harder to do and alittle more complicated, I went to school with you i know that your mind cant handle things like that its okay #Ifyouneedityouweren'tninjaenough There should never be an option to become invincible. That's basic game design. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 There should never be an option to become invincible. That's basic game design. your not invincible anything but, first well magnetic is an instant KO XD and just a second health bar its like a shield behind your health to help slow down your death, you cant tank out a t4 capture you still have to strategize you just don't get one shot with your loki XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Jam Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 i completely understand survivability BUT this made you invincible. You're not invincible. You can still only survive for so long before you run out of energy, same as shield and health. QT and Rage does nothing more than effectively make your energy bar another health bar. If you were arguing for your point before the major nerf on both of the mods then I would completely agree. As of now they are balanced and cannot provide your said "invincibility" forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 your not invincible anything but, first well magnetic is an instant KO XD and just a second health bar its like a shield behind your health to help slow down your death, you cant tank out a t4 capture you still have to strategize you just don't get one shot with your loki XD Did you use old QT+R? You could stand in front of enemies forever and never die. It was crazy. Now, it just burns your energy as a second health bar. Even with rage slowing it down you can't just godmode around. This is how it should have been from the beginning IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Did you use old QT+R? You could stand in front of enemies forever and never die. It was crazy. Now, it just burns your energy as a second health bar. Even with rage slowing it down you can't just godmode around. This is how it should have been from the beginning IMO. yes i did, i used the old quick thinking that was op but so was trin, it then became a second health bar, it just got nerfed again and with 400 energy my mirage cant even take 3 hits from a lvl 10 infested charger..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawaiirawrxDkys Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 You're not invincible. You can still only survive for so long before you run out of energy, same as shield and health. QT and Rage does nothing more than effectively make your energy bar another health bar. If you were arguing for your point before the major nerf on both of the mods then I would completely agree. As of now they are balanced and cannot provide your said "invincibility" forever. oh i think there balanced now well maybe they cost alittle to much for what it does now but they are definitely balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 ITs a 3rd health bar next are they going to nerf redirection? its like quick thinking only before you lose your health and it regens really quickly 0_0 OMG WAY TO OP (sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) yes i did, i used the old quick thinking that was op but so was trin, it then became a second health bar, it just got nerfed again and with 400 energy my mirage cant even take 3 hits from a lvl 10 infested charger..... Not true. I was just on Pluto and was able to tank several hits using QT, the enemies there were much higher than level 10. All the recent change does is prevent you from hovering at 2 health indefinitely ITs a 3rd health bar next are they going to nerf redirection? its like quick thinking only before you lose your health and it regens really quickly 0_0 OMG WAY TO OP (sarcasm) Please, do us all a favor and don't use that ridiculous argument. People need to learn what a slippery slope is. Edited September 11, 2014 by vaugahn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazeth Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) QT is currently bugged. Don't use it maxed for now. This has been true for some. Edited September 11, 2014 by Yazeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Ketchum Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Not true. I was just on Pluto and was able to tank several hits using QT, the enemies there were much higher than level 10. All the recent change does is prevent you from hovering at 2 health indefinitely Please, do us all a favor and don't use that ridiculous argument. People need to learn what a slippery slope is. How recent? they just nerfed it yestirday that is what this is about... not the original nerf on QT the newst one came out either today or yestirday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 How recent? they just nerfed it yestirday that is what this is about... not the original nerf on QT the newst one came out either today or yestirday... Uh, about an hour ago recent. Also, this: QT is currently bugged. Don't use it maxed for now. This has been true for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon-King-Lamb Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 like i said if you needed it you wern't ninja enough acually i dont die as often as you think, I generally take my loki prime or rhino prime to t4s and i maybe die 3-4 times with loki and maybe once or twice with rhino MAYBE (sometimes i dont die) and thats going off the past week-week and a half iv been grinding on t4 survival with out using the QT+Rage crutch sooooooooo :/ You don't use the combo, but you still use easy mode with a Rhino and Loki. If you need them in a T4. You aren't ninja enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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