SilentMobius Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm not sure if I necessarily care about a gender option for frames (or if I'd want to be locked to a single gender on an account), but I find it odd that my singular Tenno (we are clearly a singular person with access to multiple frames) can apparently wear/be female or male. Not odd in a "ewww... disgusting" sort of way, odd in a "how exactly does that work, and what exactly are we without the frame"? Because the frames are clearly gendered, but we are not? I don't see any reason to assune the Tenno have no physical sex characteristics. Ultimately it breaks down into one of three possibilities 1. The Tenno is form is self-mutable 2. The Tenno is modified to fit by the Warframe 3. The space is modified to fit both the Tenno and the Frame Given that the Orokin were masters of making dimensionally impossible spaces using void tech (as per the Orokin Towers) I'm going with 3 with a fallback to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSI_Kryptix Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Nah, that will only ruin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)AzazelMora Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Male Rhino would be Stompa from Superman:TAS (far right) Edited September 12, 2014 by DarkTails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Folkeye Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I don't see any reason to assune the Tenno have no physical sex characteristics. Ultimately it breaks down into one of three possibilities 1. The Tenno is form is self-mutable 2. The Tenno is modified to fit by the Warframe 3. The space is modified to fit both the Tenno and the Frame Given that the Orokin were masters of making dimensionally impossible spaces using void tech (as per the Orokin Towers) I'm going with 3 with a fallback to 2. Or you forgot a big, very possible, though mundane.... The frame was built to the Tenno's specs. They fit his/her body perfectly. Hence the full freedom of movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazilianJoe Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Never going to happen. DE stated many times that it's so much work that they are better of creating an entirely new warframe, instead of gender-swapping an existing one. It would be nice, I agree, but fuggedabautit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domesticon Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Really since they're going with the "You are one Tenno" (As shown by Vor) idea, we should be able to choose our genders but DE, and I do have to say this, being lazy and trying to take a cheap way out in order to not have to do the work to make Male and Female models for the Frames. And yes I understand that doing that would be quite a lot of work, but DE really should do that based on the lore we have now gotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelSD Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Nyx is the female Excalibur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baruti Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure if I necessarily care about a gender option for frames (or if I'd want to be locked to a single gender on an account), but I find it odd that my singular Tenno (we are clearly a singular person with access to multiple frames) can apparently wear/be female or male. Not odd in a "ewww... disgusting" sort of way, odd in a "how exactly does that work, and what exactly are we without the frame"? Because the frames are clearly gendered, but we are not? Ever seen Ghost in the Shell? One of the characters, Major Motoko, occasionally switches to different gender bodies (she's a cyborg with a cyber brain so she can download herself into other cyborg bodies.) I'm actually fairly convinced that the Tenno and their frames are quite similar to this. It's kind of the end point of the Transhumanism movement that we are our consciousness and not our physical body. Edited September 12, 2014 by Baruti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMobius Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Or you forgot a big, very possible, though mundane.... The frame was built to the Tenno's specs. They fit his/her body perfectly. Hence the full freedom of movement. Well that's impossible because we control one Tenno who has many Warframes, and the physiognomy for those 'frames doesn't match. For example, DE Steve: Sheldon: Is it on a per Warframe basis or a per "me" basis?Steve: That's the important thing to emphasize is there's nothing in the game that allows you to upgrade your player, what you are, your Tenno, it's always focused on your gear, this goes above that. My focus will work whether I'm working the Rhino or the Ember angle Vor in the Tutorial: Each Warframe you control is merely a glass, shaping your furious light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMobius Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Really since they're going with the "You are one Tenno" (As shown by Vor) idea, we should be able to choose our genders but DE, and I do have to say this, being lazy and trying to take a cheap way out in order to not have to do the work to make Male and Female models for the Frames. And yes I understand that doing that would be quite a lot of work, but DE really should do that based on the lore we have now gotten. Unless 'frames having defined gender characteristics is now part of the lore. Say, the Warframe material is constructed from a template made by the imprinting of the first Tenno to wear that "new line". E.G. The Ember Warframe gets it's powers, shape, and fragments of skill and personality from the first Tenno for whom the suit was made. Subsequent Ember Warframes carry all of those elements with them, regardless of current pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snydrex Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Horrible idea. ....I'd pay platnum for it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchias Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Once the important stuff has been fixed/done I wouldn't be opposed to them implementing genderswapped models. Until then I don't see much point in putting time and money into it (though that can be argued for most cosmetics anyway.)9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronyn Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Nah, that will only ruin it. Ruin what exactly? I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-Bunny Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I think this beauty is from Panzer_the_Tank I fully support the idea of a male Mag. I kno right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.Katsura_999 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The original idea was to have female models of frames. This was scrapped. NO!!!! Damn and i was hoping for this to happen soon so i could buy it. OMG so much yes!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 definitely NOT NEVER EVER impossibru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander_Kaiser Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Thanks for the replies people. I was and still am thinking that the Pre-alpha Nyx (i.e. the model that was use prior to her becoming the frame we all know of) should at least be a skin for Nyx. Though we all know that probably is not going to happen. I am also most likely one of the many that hope for a Nemesis skin for Nyx (may happen though we never really know until the announcement of these things.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katinka Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Never going to happen. DE stated many times that it's so much work that they are better of creating an entirely new warframe, instead of gender-swapping an existing one. It would be nice, I agree, but fuggedabautit. I get where they are coming from with this argument but it annoys me a bit when it comes to Excalibur/Nyx. The male/female bodies are already there with the skins mapped to them and the animations done. Would it really be so hard to add the Nyx body and Immortal Nyx body to Excalibur's options and vice versa? Assuming the player has both frames, much like using Mag's helmet on Mag Prime. Devstream's have even mentioned the ability to use animation sets from different frames soon which suggests to me that one hurdle has already been jumped. For example, DE Steve: Bah. Quoted quote not showing. Oh well. While I don't disagree with you, every time someone references that speech I feel it is important to mention that the plural of 'Tenno' is 'Tenno'. It is possible, if unlikely, that Steve was talking about upgrading our 'people' rather than our 'person'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Id say Ash first Just because dat Ash EDIT Then again female Excalibro can be called Excalibooty... Edited September 15, 2014 by Azawarau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Joshuaalt Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I say no...just because you love Excalibur doesn't mean that he needs to be made into a female as well or any Warframe for that fact. Nyx...Ember Prime...Trinity...Nova....as a dude...no thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandweed Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheArrowOfGod Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 No. BRING BACK HAYDEN TENNO SKIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheArrowOfGod Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Plus a female RHINO? YUCK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Why would we need another Nyx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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