Latron Wraith: Heres How To Make It Viable For Use Over Latron Prime

[creeperZface]

make it fire like the slow fireing LMGs from destiny, exept slightly slower. keep the fire rate, just make it a very slow auto rifle with high damage. makes the higher firerate atually used, and not super spammy

Edited September 14, 2014 by creeperZface

[Rakshal]

But the Latron Wraith is already better than Latron Prime.

[vaugahn]

Does it really need this? It's already equally viable against Latron Prime, what with its much better crit chance.

[AlienOvermind]

It is already as viable as Latron Prime. If you want edgy jetblack-red LMG go play with your Gorgon Wraith.

[creeperZface]

trust me, its not as good. also tripple tenno'd

 

btw i have the gorgon wraith. i didnt say change anything exept make it automatic (but very slow)

Edited September 14, 2014 by creeperZface

[SoulEchelon]

 

Watch the first few minutes of this. The uploader has a pretty detailed explanation on what makes both Latron Wraith and Prime viable.

 

While not MUCH BETTER than Latron Prime, it's definitely on par and both have strengths and weaknesses that make them slightly different from each other, but both great weapons.

 

For comparisons sake:

 

Edited September 14, 2014 by SoulEchelon

[creeperZface]

still, be kinda cool for a gun like what i surgested.

[Fabpsi]

 

still, be kinda cool for a gun like what i surgested.

 

Well... you should have suggested a new weapon (maybe with some details and design ideas; some pictures; numbers, yadayadaya) and not the change of a latron weapon (because...welll...it is still a latron... no matter what version...) 

 

Annnnnd I agree with SoulEchelon :3

Edited September 14, 2014 by Fabpsi

[(PSN)Mhj-sab]

Why is it that people are like: "X IN WARFRAME MUST BE LIKE Y FROM DESTINY!"

On topic: Latron Wraith IS viable. Srsly.

[Grulos]

Latron Wraith is better in every way in comparison to Latron Prime.

[Sloan441]

Not in every way, but it's comparable and arguably better in absolute DPS, if that matters to you.

[MirageKnight]

Latron Prime deals superior Puncture damage and slightly higher Slash damage and Status chance compared to the Latron Wraith, while the Latron Wraith has better Critical Chance and damage, slightly higher rate of fire and slightly better Impact damage and is considered a Silent weapon.

 

The big tradeoff for the Latron Wraith over the Latron Prime aside from Puncture damage is higher vertical recoil, making Stabilizer a necessity if you want to turn it into a proper marksman rifle (much like the regular Latron): The Latron Prime handles much better than the other two Latrons...not to mention that it has a "v" AND a "-" polarity to make modding easier.

 

I feel the Latron Prime in general is the superior weapon of all the Latron variants - and it should remain that way, given the time, resources and effort one must expend to acquire it. That being said, the Latron Wraith - as an event weapon - should be better than its regular counterpart and it definitely is.

[w00tm0ng3r]

still, be kinda cool for a gun like what i surgested.

 

It's called an Attica.

[LukeAura]

Per shot with Point Strike+Split chamber, the Wraith and prime out damage each other through crits/double crits about half the time each. 
Wraith crits more often than Prime, but prime wins out all tie cases. However, both hit fairly powerfully with crits so I would imagine the only tie case worth factoring for is the non crit case.
In which, Prime has the advantage of still dealing massive damage. So overall I would say the Wraith is actually a superior damage dealer.

High RoF, less noise, crits more often,
Less recoil, slightly more status chance, higher base damage. 

It's really up to player opinion on what combination is better for their play style.  
 

Edited September 15, 2014 by LukeAura

[MirageKnight]

Given that the trigger type for all Latrons is semi-auto and we're talking about rates of fire of 5.4 rounds per second (Wraith) vs 4.2 (Prime)...I'm not even sure if ROF should even be a factor in terms of deciding which weapon is better. I mean honestly, who can click their mouse button 4-5 times per second?

 

I'm being quite serious here - and just for the sake of argument, remapping to use your scroll wheel to fire does NOT count.

[PlayGooYa]

The trick is that shooting a Bombadeer at middle range at 4-5 shots/sec is not hard.

But yeah, there's really no problem with the Wraith. I consider it slightly better overall for the more consistent crit rate and its edge uses like just dumping it into a heavy target. Ammo efficiency really isn't a problem with the Latron series no matter what.

[LukeAura]

Given that the trigger type for all Latrons is semi-auto and we're talking about rates of fire of 5.4 rounds per second (Wraith) vs 4.2 (Prime)...I'm not even sure if ROF should even be a factor in terms of deciding which weapon is better. I mean honestly, who can click their mouse button 4-5 times per second?

 

I'm being quite serious here - and just for the sake of argument, remapping to use your scroll wheel to fire does NOT count.

Actually, the average clicks per second most people can achieve is 5-6 without pushing themselves all that hard. Being unable to get over 5 per second is abnormally slow.  

 

[(PSN)Alphapsykongaroo]

just use a macro or map to mousewheel if you want autofire. i read somewhere that de says they dont mind if you do that, but correct me if im wrong.

i would like to see a recording of someone doing this with speedtrigger on.

Edited September 15, 2014 by (PS4)Alphapsykongaroo

[DSpite]

still, be kinda cool for a gun like what i surgested.

 

No actually, it would not.

 

It should had never impinged on the Latron Prime at ALL. It should have fallen somewhere in between the Latron and the Prime more, simply because now EVERYONE AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER has one, and only mad people and Englishman have normal Latrons (and brand new players, but they are all scum and easily ignored).

 

DE basically equipped the entire player base with semi-Latron Primes, and many will never bother to get another gun. Just a BP would have made more sense, to me. The Slot and Catalyst is WAY too generous. I would have made players walk 50 miles in the snow uphill BOTH ways before giving them a Latron Wraith.

 

And no, I'm not giving mine back, DE will have to pry it from my dead inactive account.

[sneakatone]

no, my finger itches for a faster fire rate. slightly faster reload would be perfect.

[MirageKnight]

Actually, the average clicks per second most people can achieve is 5-6 without pushing themselves all that hard. Being unable to get over 5 per second is abnormally slow.  

 

 

According to what source?

 

On a side note, that sounds like a quick path to Carpal Tunnel Syndrome or Tendinitis if you ask me. I'd rather be considered "abnormally slow" in that case.

 

No actually, it would not.

 

It should had never impinged on the Latron Prime at ALL. It should have fallen somewhere in between the Latron and the Prime more, simply because now EVERYONE AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER has one, and only mad people and Englishman have normal Latrons (and brand new players, but they are all scum and easily ignored).

 

DE basically equipped the entire player base with semi-Latron Primes, and many will never bother to get another gun. Just a BP would have made more sense, to me. The Slot and Catalyst is WAY too generous. I would have made players walk 50 miles in the snow uphill BOTH ways before giving them a Latron Wraith.

 

And no, I'm not giving mine back, DE will have to pry it from my dead inactive account.

 

Pretty much this.

 

Mine was leveled for Mastery...and is now on my trophy shelf collecting dust. It was a nice gift on DE's part...but that's all it was to me. All it required was an hour of my time (if that) to get and nothing more. My Latron Prime though? That cost several hours of time and effort, some resources, and a little plat for the slot and catalyst on my part...and with the stats it has and its two slots, frankly it was worth everything I put into it.

Edited September 15, 2014 by MirageKnight

[LukeAura]

According to what source?

 

On a side note, that sounds like a quick path to Carpal Tunnel Syndrome or Tendinitis if you ask me. I'd rather be considered "abnormally slow" in that case.

It was something I found when people were talking about the Magnus vs. Vasto, which is a much more reasonable comparison of weapons to consider the Semi Auto Limitation. I'll see if I can find it again. 

You can find your own mouse click tester to see for yourself though, I had no trouble managing a 5.5 for 10 seconds.

Once I hit 7 clicks per second I start feeling the strain. Really, it's not that bad. And since you're only doing so for approximately 3 seconds before taking a 2.5 second break in between, it's not so hard to keep up the speed for the Wraith.

 

Edited September 15, 2014 by LukeAura

[angrykenji]

i love setting my fire alternative key to my mousewheel for my semi auto weapons while people complain about tired fingers

[yuio678]

But the Latron Wraith is already better than Latron Prime.