Azawarau Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=5415ff87e4b088456e71c9d4 Please vote once each This is just to get a general idea of forum opinion so dont bother mentioning the playerbase as a whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukkhadevata. Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hysteria with no invincibility is just no.Why becuase Valkyr already got a rework Hysteria got a stance and if the invincibilty is gone nobody would use her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SofeSNBR Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Post like these makes me hate these forums and makes me think that im wasting my time here.. thank you for reminding me why i shouldnt be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hysteria with no invincibility is just no.Why becuase Valkyr already got a rework Hysteria got a stance and if the invincibilty is gone nobody would use her There are already players who use her without invincibility all the time Its the more common end game version of Valkyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicTroublermaker Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I like how OP doesnt mention his opinion, most likely to avoid flame when he says he wants no invincibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 I like how OP doesnt mention his opinion, most likely to avoid flame when he says he wants no invincibility Everyone who frequents the forums knows my opinion on this already If i were afraid of being flamed i wouldnt even make this thread Its going to happen either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidcrash Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I like how OP doesnt mention his opinion, most likely to avoid flame when he says he wants no invincibility Did you read the topic name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviched Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 When first using Valkyr, I thought she was absorbing all the damage and it was be dished out when Hysteria was over, so I was always really cautious during my temporary god mode. Personally, that what I think Hysteria should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 When first using Valkyr, I thought she was absorbing all the damage and it was be dished out when Hysteria was over, so I was always really cautious during my temporary god mode. Personally, that what I think Hysteria should be. You only have to be cautious after it ends and only for a moment at best if youre spamming it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvang Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 When first using Valkyr, I thought she was absorbing all the damage and it was be dished out when Hysteria was over, so I was always really cautious during my temporary god mode. Personally, that what I think Hysteria should be. It worked similar to that when it first came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadaddadada Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I see there is an option for turning invincibility to damage reduction. I disagree because warcry is supposed to do that, even if +50% armor translates into a pitiful 10% additional damage reduction... But well we can dream right? :p The only thing hysteria may need is flow in movements imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Melee based character without this kind of defense would be very difficult to play. Also it would be a glorified female Rhino. For the sake of diversity keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) I see there is an option for turning invincibility to damage reduction. I disagree because warcry is supposed to do that, even if +50% armor translates into a pitiful 10% additional damage reduction... But well we can dream right? :p The only thing hysteria may need is flow in movements imo. 10% damage reduction brings you from taking 20% to taking 10% damage I dont know if you realize ho big of a difference that is Especially with quick thinking as a third layer of armor Melee based character without this kind of defense would be very difficult to play. Also it would be a glorified female Rhino. For the sake of diversity keep it. She has no CC A defensive/utility buff rather than offensive And High effective HP VS Extra shield like armor If changed to DR shed still be entirely different than rhino in near every way except that theyre both considered tanks Edited September 14, 2014 by Azawarau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racercowboy Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I have no clue why people want to keep the invincibility. It's already been proven that it's too much, even with the no guns penalty. The only way I could see the invincibility staying is if she had some form of health drain during Hysteria, since in its original design it seemed to be projected as a risky but powerful ultimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndantony Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 ...sounds like another hate post, after some bitter losses to Valkyr in pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 ...sounds like another hate post, after some bitter losses to Valkyr in pvp. I don't see hate anywhere, balance suggestion on the other hand yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 I have no clue why people want to keep the invincibility. It's already been proven that it's too much, even with the no guns penalty. The only way I could see the invincibility staying is if she had some form of health drain during Hysteria, since in its original design it seemed to be projected as a risky but powerful ultimate. Its the ame as the trinity and rhino invicible iron skin and frost and nyx shields They all had to go Hysteria is the last straw and on the border of needing to go ...sounds like another hate post, after some bitter losses to Valkyr in pvp. I havnt played PvP in a while but when i did i never once ran into a hysteria user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I really dont care. This should be answered by people who play Valkyr and know more about her than average Warframe player. Only thing that i like about here is that Hysteria jump, where she looks like Sonic while doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgebanks Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Honestly, Hysteria is only useful for reviving, speaking of which revive boosting mods when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadaddadada Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) 10% damage reduction brings you from taking 20% to taking 10% damage I dont know if you realize ho big of a difference that is Especially with quick thinking as a third layer of armor Nein. That's not how you are supposed to stack it. Read this thread: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/304465-how-much-armor-do-cryopods-have/ Between having and not having warcry there is only a 8-10% difference in health loss. That's what i wanted to say: as a Valkyr, instead of having 80% damage reduction with steel fiber, you get a total of 82% damage reduction because 10% (warcry effect) of 20% is only +2%. speaking of which revive boosting mods when? I approve of it u.u Edited September 14, 2014 by dadaddadada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Nein. That's not how you are supposed to stack it. Read this thread: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/304465-how-much-armor-do-cryopods-have/ Between having and not having warcry there is only a 8-10% difference in health loss. That's what i wanted to say: as a Valkyr, instead of having 80% damage reduction with steel fiber, you get a total of 82% damage reduction because 10% (warcry effect) of 20% is only +2%. I approve of it u.u Youre speaking about a pod with potentially little armor VS valkyr with QT here you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTaro Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 We already know that DE isn't in favour of complete invincibility. Rhino was the first to go through this. Frost, Trinity and Nyx lost their invincibility too. So I'd say there is a chance that Valkyr could follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayPi3 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I want them to remove the invincibility in favor of giving Hysteria more competitive damage / range / mobility. The only reason the invincibility exists IMO is to make up for what she lacks in those categories. If she had an equally as effective way of maneuvering and killing as an equally forma'd gun, then there'd be no need to rely on invincibility as a crutch to achieve all of said maneuvers, no? Being a berserker... I would expect being in a hysterical state like that would throw you into reckless abandon and force you to kill everything in sight (whilst giving you the tools to do so) to stay alive. Kill or be killed. That feeling of risk vs reward is thrilling, and speaks to her theme as a berserker.Right now, it's no-risk, some reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadaddadada Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Youre speaking about a pod with potentially little armor VS valkyr with QT here you know Doesn't matter. Works this way also on valkyr with maxed steel fiber. That's how armor scales in this game. You can test it. I just did :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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