The Sheev... How Disappointing

[-Mr.Meeseeks-]

Finally got the new event dagger and I must say, it is quite disappointing. To say that we've come from weapons that were worth doing events for (Strun Wraith, Brakk ect.) to weapons like this... It's just plainly depressing to have to get this thing to 30.

 

In terms of pure damage output, it rivals weapons like the scindo and the Galatine (which isn't saying much; two-handed weapons really got the shaft when melee 2.0 came). So in terms of damage, this tiny dagger is matching these giant weapons. But for some reason this blade no longer than a foot long is somehow slower than a 7 foot long greatsword?

 

When wielding the weapon and swinging it, I literally feel like i'm in bullet time while the enemies around me are not. Yet when I swing around my scindo or Galatine I feel like I have superhuman strength (which I wouldn't doubt for some of the Warframes) swinging this giant piece of metal around like this.

 

When looking into other daggers to compare, it seems like it's a bit of a trend. Both Heat Dagger and Karyst have just 0.1 faster melee speed compared to the Sheev, which is either identical or slower than a lot of the heavier two-handed weapons. That seems rather off. You'd think daggers would be the faster and less damaging of the weapons, yet it's quite the opposite.

 

Am I alone in feeling this way? Should daggers really do comparable damage to weapon like the Fragor, Scindo, and Gram, yet be much slower?

[011100110110000101101101]

The Sheev is going to get a speed buff soon, read the patch notes.

 

Other than that, we'll just have to see.

[Evers]

I agree. I never understood why daggers have such a slow attack speed. A dagger is small and light, it should have a really high attack speed but lower damage.

[Brynslustafir]

This whole event is pretty disappointing. It's nothing but repetativeness and artifical difficulty with a nearly worthless reward at the end. 

[HalotroopermanX7]

Look's down at tiny dagger in hand.

Struggles to lift it.

Weight is too stronk

#REKT

 

Edit: Forgot to add that I agree with you... how can a dagger be as slow as a great longsword?

Edited September 19, 2014 by HalotroopermanX7

[VKhaun]

Looks cool as hell though, doesn't it?

 

Definitely going on my back with any Grineer rifle and pistol combos.

[DalaiLlama]

I feel similarly to the Karyst.  It is beyond me that daggers seem to have similar stats to weapons like greatswords and hammers.  What needs to be done is a complete rework of the weapons.

 

I would imagine such a rework boosting attack speed, critical chance, and critical damage amongst other things.

[HAYABU5A]

all the single daggers are too slow thats why people complain so much about them

 

come on.. a dagger is always the fastest edged melee weapon in hand lol its ridiculous that any other melee is faster 

[Seanjuju]

If the sheev gets a speed fix, then karyst should get one too. However, I'm more interested in how the current dagger speeds got in the game in the first place.

[XenosInfinity]

According to patch notes, it already got its speed fixed. It's still at 0.7.

[Arlayn]

According to patch notes, it already got its speed fixed. It's still at 0.7.

I can only imagine its a heavy little dagger hence the plasma LOL...

[011100110110000101101101]

According to patch notes, it already got its speed fixed. It's still at 0.7.

Did you read all of them?

 

It said it was accidentally applied to only the slide speed.

 

It's still being worked on.

[Kripnex]

Looks cool as hell though, doesn't it?

 

Definitely going on my back with any Grineer rifle and pistol combos.

This... THING looks more like a cheap icepick than a dagger, I just can't wait to max it so that I can stop embarrassing myself with such a hideous piece of equipment.

[Satinpuppies]

It looks like a pizza cutter.... and it doesn't really do much other than that.

[Brynslustafir]

Looks cool as hell though, doesn't it?

 

Definitely going on my back with any Grineer rifle and pistol combos.

It looks like a poorly constructed Kukri machete. 

[VKhaun]

:(

 

Guess I'll just add that to my collection of stuff no one else uses.

Maybe make a set out of Sobek, Acrid and Skeev.

[K0bra]

This weapon is big big crap.I cant imagine that after the speed buff it will be better.This weapon needs 1,2-1,5 and a better stance.Then i could like it.

By far the worst event weapon.

Edited September 19, 2014 by K0bra

[Noabettiet]

The grineer are finally doing it right, giving us the perfect weapons for us to die with.

[ZxpferTH]

Yes Dagger one hand stance are bad enough

 

but they stats even worse....

[Arlayn]

The grineer are finally doing it right, giving us the perfect weapons for us to die with.

very logical... Cause I don't see our enemy grineer using it against us... Its a sign...

[kuri99]

Daggers have needed a bit of a rework since we got Melee 2.0 just like heavy weapons. Melee 2.0 made a lot of the middle of the road weapons like dual daggers, dual swords, single swords, whips, and polearms good but other types have fallen a bit behind (this is one of the reasons why a lot of people say melee 2.0 was good but needed work).

 

Anyway, the only dagger that felt like a dagger to me was the ceramic dagger (to be fair I havnt used all of the daggers since melee 2.0 came out). That said, for awhile Ive felt like what daggers should have is high attack speed, good crit/crit damage, and lower damage. Reinforcing the idea of quick and deadly strikes when they hit vital areas.

 

As for the sheev, I  havnt played with it much yet but when I looked at it earlier I thought it might make a good channeling dagger but Ill have to test that out to be sure. Im sure with enough time/forma someone will make an uber build with it

[Celle-Reveris]

You mean daggers should be fast? Do you even space ninja br--

Though more importantly, with a heavy weapons rework being heavily implied, if not confirmed, hopefully my Galatine can finally outperform a single dagger that's been in the game since update 6

[S13gtastic]

It's so slooooooooow.....I just can't bring my self to level Sheev.....starting to think DE likes slow daggers V_V

[Shoesington]

The current state of the Karyst, Heat Dagger, and now the Sheev, is ridiculous. Please bring the attack speed up to a point that at least the first and last one are comparable to the other good melee weapons, like the Ichor and Orthos Prime

[Jinryusai]

The dagger stance speed makes no sense for a dagger. A dagger is always fast so how does the stance make all daggers slow...Someone is not thinking at all, it's like using a heavy dagger which does not exist.