LoopStricken Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) *Note - Not sure if right section, but since it's not technically about the weapons' functionality, I figured Art might be more applicable* So, the Founder weapons (Skana Prime and Lato Prime) are poo. This is pretty much an undeniable fact. They also represent a sizeable amount of investment in Warframe, and if you own these weapons, you should feel proud, or maybe a little bit guilty, of all the cash you put down for this game so early in its life. ...but nobody ever uses them, because they're massively overpowered by other weapons. My suggestion - Make the Founder weapons akin to skin/model replacements for that weapon class. Now, the Founders can take their weak Skana Prime, slap the skin on the awesome Dakra Prime, and slice up fools left right and centre. Lato Prime, single pistol. Underpowered. Unused. Reskin a Marelok or Brakk. Feel good. Note: keep them as actual items but let them be used as skin replacements too, because I forgot about Mastery points. Edited September 19, 2014 by LoopStricken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlraistlx Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Ignore this. Edited September 19, 2014 by xlraistlx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchias Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ...Or just buff them to make viable? Ignore this. You didn't even bother to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krustable Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 the word you were looking for was underpowered also where would the mastery go for those that leveled them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlraistlx Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ...Or just buff them to make viable? You didn't even bother to read it. I did after posting, thus the change, i feel terribly sorry now. will try to not do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 the word you were looking for was underpowered also where would the mastery go for those that leveled them? I meant overpowered, but I meant to say "overpowered by other weapons". And I would say, keep them as actual items but let them be used as skin replacements too. Let me just edit that in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedemon Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 youre talking backwards bro ...but nobody ever uses them, because they're massively overpowered. ...Or just buff them to make viable? you missed the point sasquatch back at you You didn't even bother to read it. think the poster if really confused... or drunk, however there are 2 sides to buffing exclusives, first the jealousy that will inspire, and second that "that" would make them more desirable which makes keeping them exclusive a hard to keep deal for the company, i however don't have one and will never get one, so i wouldn't mind if they get something more "pretty" even when a few formas would fix the weapon anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 think the poster if really confused... or drunk, however there are 2 sides to buffing exclusives, first the jealousy that will inspire, and second that "that" would make them more desirable which makes keeping them exclusive a hard to keep deal for the company, i however don't have one and will never get one, so i wouldn't mind if they get something more "pretty" even when a few formas would fix the weapon anyway. I just mis-spoke. And fixed it. I'm not even suggesting buffing the exclusives, just making these expensive items usable as cosmetic skins for other, better weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedemon Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I just mis-spoke. And fixed it. I'm not even suggesting buffing the exclusives, just making these expensive items usable as cosmetic skins for other, better weapons. while i've always believed that a cosmetic would had been better choice for the effect it gave, remember the skins are weapon/frame tied they would either need to reskin all frames/weapons or hold an election for the replacement and think of what to do with current, which is too much work for the benefit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchias Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 youre talking backwards bro you missed the point sasquatch back at you think the poster if really confused... or drunk, however there are 2 sides to buffing exclusives, first the jealousy that will inspire, and second that "that" would make them more desirable which makes keeping them exclusive a hard to keep deal for the company, i however don't have one and will never get one, so i wouldn't mind if they get something more "pretty" even when a few formas would fix the weapon anyway. I got what he wanted to do, and put in my two cents on the matter, which was to just buff them to be better instead of going through the hassle of making them skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 while i've always believed that a cosmetic would had been better choice for the effect it gave, remember the skins are weapon/frame tied they would either need to reskin all frames/weapons or hold an election for the replacement and think of what to do with current, which is too much work for the benefit No no, simply give all Founders of the appropriate levels a cosmetic that can be used for every weapon of that particular class, aka longswords and single pistols. It'd just be a more wide-ranging version of the candy cane skin/model that scythes got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 if everyone did what you said, then all we'll see are dakra p and brakk/marelok.....people use the weapons they LIKE, not the weapons that are stronger than others, when will all of you OP lovers learn that? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 people use the weapons they LIKE, not the weapons that are stronger than others, when will all of you OP lovers learn that? :/ I'm suggesting that Founders get to use their exclusive items as skins over appropriate and more-useful weapons of the same type, not that... Actually, I'm not even all that certain what you ARE saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedemon Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I got what he wanted to do, and put in my two cents on the matter, which was to just buff them to be better instead of going through the hassle of making them skins. yeah but that a little unrealistic considering the effort of making all the skins, for a group that did trust the game from the get go, but will not grow larger nor increase the profit they generate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-IX Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) yeah but that a little unrealistic considering the effort of making all the skins, for a group that did trust the game from the get go, but will not grow larger nor increase the profit they generate Well said, also this is Highly unlikely DE would do that Edited September 19, 2014 by Aeon66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedemon Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 No no, simply give all Founders of the appropriate levels a cosmetic that can be used for every weapon of that particular class, aka longswords and single pistols. It'd just be a more wide-ranging version of the candy cane skin/model that scythes got. you mean a single "full model replacer" that replaces any gun? ... would kinda look awkward with some guns (stug and ballista come to mind) but would depend on how the engine manage replacers, you sure the candy cane is not a skin duped for every weapon that can use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 you sure the candy cane is not a skin duped for every weapon that can use it? I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchias Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 yeah but that a little unrealistic considering the effort of making all the skins, for a group that did trust the game from the get go, but will not grow larger nor increase the profit they generate Well said, also this is Highly unlikely DE would do that Why would it be unlikely or something for DE to buff the Skana Prime and Lato Prime? It feels like it'd be a lot easier than making them skins for every gun or sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-IX Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Why would it be unlikely or something for DE to buff the Skana Prime and Lato Prime? It feels like it'd be a lot easier than making them skins for every gun or sword.what i said is that it is higly unlikely that DE would skins of them to use on other weapons Edited September 20, 2014 by Aeon66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatchias Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 what i said is that it is higly unlikely that DE would skins of them to use on other weapons Ah sorry, its just that the way the posts are worded (or my eyes are playing tricks on me) makes it look like you guys thought that part was unlikely. Sorry for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneBreakerx Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 *Note - Not sure if right section, but since it's not technically about the weapons' functionality, I figured Art might be more applicable* So, the Founder weapons (Skana Prime and Lato Prime) are poo. This is pretty much an undeniable fact. They also represent a sizeable amount of investment in Warframe, and if you own these weapons, you should feel proud, or maybe a little bit guilty, of all the cash you put down for this game so early in its life. ...but nobody ever uses them, because they're massively overpowered by other weapons. My suggestion - Make the Founder weapons akin to skin/model replacements for that weapon class. Now, the Founders can take their weak Skana Prime, slap the skin on the awesome Dakra Prime, and slice up fools left right and centre. Lato Prime, single pistol. Underpowered. Unused. Reskin a Marelok or Brakk. Feel good. Note: keep them as actual items but let them be used as skin replacements too, because I forgot about Mastery points. well then i want to slap my wraith/vandel skins on all my other weapons too... and my prime skins on non prime weapons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 well then i want to slap my wraith/vandel skins on all my other weapons too... and my prime skins on non prime weapons... I can't help but feel you've missed the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodKitten Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 no. they are what they are, you cant expect a lato prime to be in line with sicarus prime, you have your stupid exclusive, unless you want to start a petition to make founder items available, just enjoy your exclusive items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-IX Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 no. they are what they are, you cant expect a lato prime to be in line with sicarus prime, you have your stupid exclusive, unless you want to start a petition to make founder items available, just enjoy your exclusive items. well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 just enjoy your exclusive items. I'm trying, but they're practically useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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