HoakinBlackforge Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) As the title says, the game doesnt reward you for doing effort in missions, or grinding hours in a void survival, at least in my point of view. Killing bosses for, just getting warframe parts and thats it? You could make that bosses have a chance to drop a stance mod, or blueprints for more weapons, for example, make kril drop the gorgon blueprint, so those poor begineers in the game have a chance to get the normal one. And the prime warframes, just modified starting polarities, maybe a bit more of energy capacity, and, nothing more? Well, then i dont find any reason to get those prime warframes, they are worthless. Why not make those prime warframes, have by default different stats on them, like for example rhino prime, a 15% extra power strenght, 150/150 Shield and health, and 300 armor, so now THATS a real tank as it should be (maybe OP, but, its a prime and i think thats how it should be) Add bonuses on missions for doing pure stealth runs (and higher on alert missions), for example, a "ghost" bonus, requires to dont alert any enemy through the mission (sounds mostly impossible, but its cool anyway), things that challenge more the player to play in a different way to his typical playstyle, instead of rushing and gunning down everything in sight. Things to make the effort rewarding. Also, exploration on maps could be better, like finding those secret places filled with lockers and loot crates, as it happens in the void and derelict. At least, these are the things DE should add into the game, to make the game a bit more enjoyable, because right now, there is no any game objective, and this makes players like me, to play the game only when there is something actually interesting and its worth to do. Edited September 22, 2014 by HoakinBlackforge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJxt Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It is when you are having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3Evanescence Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It is when you are having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoakinBlackforge Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 It is when you are having fun. It is, but, not always you have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenge Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 For me the prime version is always better because it's the one that gets the potato. But is WF rewarding, idk, sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. I took a 3 month break from it tho, didn't login once. So it depends on alot of things if you find your current experience "rewarding". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderMEEN Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It is, but, not always you have fun. Then take a break! Warframe's only a grind if you let it become one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoakinBlackforge Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Right now im not talking about fun, im talking about in-game rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Then take a break! Warframe's only a grind if you let it become one. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier1312 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 First of all, most bosses drop stances. Gorgon is random for everyone, new primes have a little better stats, which are useful, plus they can extract energy from orbs in void. However bonus for sealth mission would be nice. We're supposed to be ninjas, so... :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderMEEN Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 First of all, most bosses drop stances. Gorgon is random for everyone, new primes have a little better stats, which are useful, plus they can extract energy from orbs in void. However bonus for sealth mission would be nice. We're supposed to be ninjas, so... :| There is an XP bonus for getting stealth kills already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenge Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Right now im not talking about fun, im talking about in-game rewards. Well, if it's only about just the ingame rewards I'd say if there's still prime weapons or frames you haven't gotten from the void and you don't even see a point in doing so at all then maybe WF isn't necessarily your game, idk. Edit: I'm not saying your inputs are bad btw, I bet we'll get more stuff to go for over the years?! Did you hear that you will be able to level up your frame with exp too soon, kinda like small bonuses for getting say 10m exp with a frame. They said something amongst those lines in a recent dev show. Edited September 22, 2014 by scavenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Rhino Prime actually does have increased stats over Rhino. Some of the primes don't even get an extra polarity (poor Ember Prime). Primes are about swag, not stats, as is wont in many free to play/freemium games, swag is it's own reward. Some bosses do drop weapon blueprints, and can drop stances as well, but those stances are also on the regular loot table for other mobs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier1312 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 There is an XP bonus for getting stealth kills already. But bonus for sealth completion of mission would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Kinda neutral on the whole "Primes having upgraded stats" thing. I think minor things like Rhino Primes bonus sprint speed and Loki Prime's increased energy cap are good enough really (although for the sake of consistency the older Primes should really get a bonus perk as well). As for rewards in general, I think the real issue is just the fact that item drops are almost entirely up to RNG, enemy level or general difficulty have the most miniscule effect on the rarity of what item you get, and mods/resources drop in the exact same quantities at any given level so there's basically no true incentive to play higher tier stuff unless you just want the challenge. The exception of course being the Void, but that comes with it's own torrent of RNG mayhem. So no, the rewards system isn't very rewarding relative to difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenge Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Btw I'd be all for primes being a tad bit better, nothing wrong with that. But they'd all have to have a unique or similar boost. Not just some of them as it is now. Edit: Basicly I'm agreeing with Para. Also yeah mob levels mean nothing, got Quick Thinking in a T2 def the other day. Edited September 22, 2014 by scavenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampera Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 the playing itself should be more rewarding then the reward at the end .... and still most only see/want then thing in the extraction screen. same goes for grinding ... it should be fun ( and it is for me i dont care what comes out at the end ) and not a depressing way tto get something and im for that prime frames should have no xtra not emberp not urineogre rhinop or lokip ... allready fear for nyxp ... and prime weaps just be ofc a bit better ... but not such huge jumps we have now and make this weaps 'needed' (they dont) but they create that mentality .... and instead of make the rewards more worth, make more ways to get rewards, even litlle, like you said: stealth rewards, explore rewards, notkillingeverythingonesight-reward .... and exploit the human way of thinking ... like permanet sell a 60 jacket for 20 and lable 66% instead of selling it for plain 20 ... lets fill a lil bar and whens full its gives you something that you had got anyway during the task ... cause feels more rewarding ... bu8t i know i wont change anything now the game nor the persons who play it ... so i play have fun( thats the reward) and solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSlayer1990 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) as if the game wasn't to easy already ( the only buffs i would like would be very small ones for primes that do not have one yet), there isn't anything in this game you can't solo. If anything i would like to see something ig that cannot be solo. as far as rewards i still think the "log-in reward" is outdated. Edited September 22, 2014 by SoulSlayer1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenge Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Yeah Ampera, when it becomes a grind I usually leave. Edit: Or I grind for goals I set myself, that's not the same as wanting to grind a frame the first day it's out or something. I just do void keys as I get them and receive what comes (forma BP anyone?). But some stuff like this beacon farming is just a grind and will always be one xD Delta Beacons anyone? Edited September 22, 2014 by scavenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampera Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 . . . (forma BP anyone?). But some stuff like this beacon farming is just a grind and will always be one xD Delta Beacons anyone? allways happy about formas ^^ and delta are now easy to get :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7grims Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Warframe need to reward better in 3 situations: - every mission in the solar system, should reward a void key or a random mod upon competition. - void towers need to give out more rewards per tier of difficulty, it isn't resealable to get only 1 reward in a tier 1 and also on a tier 2-3-4. Any rpime part as the same value of any other, so why the extra dificulty for getting an item of the same value, hence why I say it should give extra rewards pear tier, even if those are just keys or core bundles. And at the same time, many of the void missions still reward cores or resources, those don't compensate doing a run just for them, nor they have the same value as a prime part. - eximus only drop oberon parts, I have at this moment enough parts to build a minimum of 60 oberons; the eximus should drop more parts of other frames or special guns. As for the bosses, as OP speak, many players repeat these missions only for the rare resources they drop, maybe they should drop other parts as long as those don't retain you of catching the frame parts. I also have the theory that the Gate Crash Event was the first step by DE trying to add rewarding content inside the mission, even though these are interesting the quantity and value of these rewards is not so good, I quickly gave up trying to find those lockers. Edited September 22, 2014 by 7grims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenge Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 allways happy about formas ^^ and delta are now easy to get :P Yeah I'd love to see a fully formed (pun intended) forma from a T3+ recently, do they still exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7grims Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yeah I'd love to see a fully formed (pun intended) forma from a T3+ recently, do they still exist? Yes some towers still have a full forma, instead of forma bp, but they are extremely rare. Check the wiki to see which of those towers drops them. http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Orokin_Void/Rewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenge Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yes some towers still have a full forma, instead of forma bp, but they are extremely rare. Check the wiki to see which of those towers drops them. http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Orokin_Void/Rewards I know bout wikis but I heard it's kinda hard to know if it's still any accurate since datamining is a thing of the past and this game is ever changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampera Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yes some towers still have a full forma, instead of forma bp, but they are extremely rare. Check the wiki to see which of those towers drops them. http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Orokin_Void/Rewards only t3 ext and t3 surv rot c >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Warframe is rewarding, and not rewarding. For example the whole protect the drills, and get 3000 points or something like that non-sense... NOT REWARD, OR FUN. That was by far the worst experience of an event yet. However Gate Crashers? Reward, and fun for the slash mods to make my Atteck the grineer whip over 300 slash damage which is fun to wack things with. The extra 15 for the slowest dagger in the game sheev... Not Rewarding at all. I would have been happier with a badge like with the Tethra event where we got the cool energy effect badge. Bosses can be rewarding just for the fun value. Alad V., and Zanuka? Fun. Vor? fun. Raptor? Not fun at all. Stalker? Always fun. G3? alittle fun, but all stress. The two new sisters we fought in Gate Crashers? I want to see those two again! Those two were a joy! There is alot of fun things to do, and play around with. Sometimes completing the weapon mod set you desire is rewarding. Popping forma can also lead to a rewarding effect with warframes, and weapons. Its all how you play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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