Grulos Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm farming T3MD the whole day just for the Scindo Prime Blade. We got loads of forma blueprints,Boar Prime Blueprints, Reaper Prime Blueprints and Boltor Prime Blueprints. There are Ember Prime Systems Blueprints and Boar Prime Barrel in addition to the already named parts in the drop table, but we didn't see a single Ember or Barrel part (and of course no Scindo Blade). This is absolutely ridiculous. Just add the damn token system the community is asking for. RNG is NEVER a solution, yet DE uses it extensively for everything. And don't say "They gotta make money somehow". They are. Loads. This is just annoying for everyone. /rant How do you guys feel about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleScoutman Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 RNG is diluting, now with more items added it's getting a bit silly. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airut Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) RNG is not the problem. The problem is DE setting ridiculously low chances of obtaining the new equipment. Blame DE for setting silly drop rates, not RNG for working how it's actually intended to work. Edited September 25, 2014 by Airut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitPointPredator Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The problem with the RNG is that it is not Psuedo-random. The chances of getting the thing you aren't getting don't increase, so you can end up NEVER getting it without trading. The RNG sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xana_Skullsunder Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 This problem is only going to get worse as DE adds more prime gear, which we know they're going to do. If they're worried about someone racking up tokens in advance for new stuff, how about this: Tokens can only be used to redeem items that existed when the tokens were earned. So you'd still need some void runs to get the newest tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCOAS Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 RNG is fine... looks at my stockpile of no void keys left... looks at the empty slot where my Nyx Prime should be... just fine..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXRampantXx Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 RNG is not the problem. The problem is DE setting ridiculously low chances of obtaining the new equipment. Blame DE for setting silly drop rates, not RNG for working how it's actually intended to work. Yeah, and what are those low chances caused by? Drop table dilution, that's what it's caused by. Yes there are some exceptions *cough*Stalker*cough*, but not many. If they would take the freaking void keys off the void drop table, that would go a long way towards making things better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg_Chen Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Sell your Boltor BPs, buy a Scindo Blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I love this meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 5 T1 Capture Keys used trying to get Hikou Prime pouch, all the rewards were more bloody keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFant Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I love this meme Warframe isn´t actually that Free2PLay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSlayer Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) I love this meme Too bad there's no downvote. Little zombie :) Warframe isn´t actually that Free2PLay Actually it is one of the fairer titles I'll give them that. Edited September 25, 2014 by SirSlayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmastra Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I was gonna make a buy plat or PA comment.. but nvm. Trading is there for a reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollerlane Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 they will probably up the drop rate of the scindo prime stuff after people stop buying the prime access thing oh wait no one is buying it because its a ridiculously obvious cash grab for a ridiculously obvious cash grab game drop rates need to be fixed, a lot of things in Warframe needs to be fixed, the game is broken as F*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airut Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Yeah, and what are those low chances caused by? Drop table dilution, that's what it's caused by. Yes there are some exceptions *cough*Stalker*cough*, but not many. If they would take the freaking void keys off the void drop table, that would go a long way towards making things better. The problem is NOT the dilution. On average there are 5 Prime rewards per each drop table/cycle. If the chances of receiving each item was 1/5 per items, one would expect to get all the items in about 10 runs. However, it seems like some items have a drop chance of 50% and some have as low as 1-5%. Edited September 25, 2014 by Airut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grulos Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 The problem is NOT the dilution. On average there are 5 Prime rewards per each drop table/cycle. If the chances of receiving each item was 1/5 per items, one would expect to get all the items in about 10 runs. However, it seems like some items have a drop chance of 50% and some have as low as 1-5%. It does not seem like not equally distributed drop chances. It is fact that they aren't equal. Someone on reddit datamines stuff and finds the drop chances. Some are as low as 0,55%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airut Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Someone on reddit datamines stuff and finds the drop chances. Some are as low as 0,55%. That would be average of 182 runs to get the item. That's crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grulos Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 That would be average of 182 runs to get the item. That's crazy! Of course it is. But DE does not seem to care. It makes me really sad that this game takes such a route... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRastaban Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 That would be average of 182 runs to get the item. That's crazy! Point being, probably, that if you get it you are really lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHog192837465 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm farming T3MD the whole day just for the Scindo Prime Blade. We got loads of forma blueprints,Boar Prime Blueprints, Reaper Prime Blueprints and Boltor Prime Blueprints. There are Ember Prime Systems Blueprints and Boar Prime Barrel in addition to the already named parts in the drop table, but we didn't see a single Ember or Barrel part (and of course no Scindo Blade). This is absolutely ridiculous. Just add the damn token system the community is asking for. RNG is NEVER a solution, yet DE uses it extensively for everything. And don't say "They gotta make money somehow". They are. Loads. This is just annoying for everyone. /rant How do you guys feel about this? what's the token system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinaqui Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 what's the token system? Token system is "Hey, you beat T1 Exterminate! Here's 5 Void Coins! Go spend these in the Void Market to buy Prime gear!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insidiatorii Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm farming T3MD the whole day just for the Scindo Prime Blade. We got loads of forma blueprints,Boar Prime Blueprints, Reaper Prime Blueprints and Boltor Prime Blueprints. There are Ember Prime Systems Blueprints and Boar Prime Barrel in addition to the already named parts in the drop table, but we didn't see a single Ember or Barrel part (and of course no Scindo Blade). This is absolutely ridiculous. Just add the damn token system the community is asking for. RNG is NEVER a solution, yet DE uses it extensively for everything. And don't say "They gotta make money somehow". They are. Loads. This is just annoying for everyone. /rant How do you guys feel about this? +1 baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insidiatorii Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Token system is "Hey, you beat T1 Exterminate! Here's 5 Void Coins! Go spend these in the Void Market to buy Prime gear!" But of course that a little exaggerated. It would have to be much, much, much more of a challenge! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinaqui Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 But of course that a little exaggerated. It would have to be much, much, much more of a challenge! :P Nah, that's pretty much exactly how it would be. It'd just be up to DE to make the Void Coin cost of items in the Void Market reasonable. We can trust them to set reasonable prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xana_Skullsunder Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 inb4 boltor prime costing 3 mil in void coins... But yeah, I'd take it over "hey, you've got a 0.55% chance to get this piece, go run this mission until you run out of keys and hope for the best." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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