Thank You For Helping Me Making Pre-Corpus Valkyr :) Now Modelling.

[arch111]

Added Valkyr Lotus warfame.

Please share your thoughts on the possibility.

[CarniKang]

Love the pics. Makes me wonder if perhaps Lotus has personal guards, and they're actually kited out in Lotus regalia.

[arch111]

If Lotus have *some* kind of body, she would need protection, unless she is totally badass herself.

[SilentMobius]

Imho the Valkyr Warframe has always been called "Valkyr" even before the corpus vivisection. Pain and rage are now major drivers for the Warframe's abilities, however, the abilities fit a Valkyrie themed Warframe just fine even without rage as a base.

 

• Harpoon (Ripline): Valkyr forms an energy spear with a tether.
• Battle Cry (Warcry): Calling as if to Valhalla Valkyr intimidated her foes and strengthens the resolve of her allies
• Shield Bash (Paralyze): Valkyr forms and sweeps and energy shield around her, unleashing a stunning wave at the expense of her shields
• Berserker (Hysteria): Like the Norse of old, Valkyr forms her signature shield and spear from energy emitters on her forearms and plunges into battle immune to damage.

   

You even have a story hook there. Valkyr was a noble warrior but through pain and torture her berseker rage took over fueling her powers but tainting the Warframe so that it could only function with that rage as the source of power. It also provides the reason that Valkyr could escape when other Tenno in Warframes could not.

 

So, from a looks perspective I'd go for:

 

Form fitting armour suggesting a chain surcoat, an asymmetric high collar a bit like Rhino with a similar bulky chest cover (not contoured into the breast cleavage). Large emitters on the forearms that would have been ripped out and replaced with the corpus blocks (To cap the emission points for her abilities)

I'd extend the helmet down with extra plated covering the cheeks, suggesting something like https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3592/3326235250_d698420680.jpg and smooth form-fitting plating on lower leg like volt

[Ailissa]

Since you are already there, you might as well try to draw "pre-corpus Zanuka".  Before the Corpus found it and ripped it apart, I mean. That would impress me.

 

You're playing pre corpus Zanuka.

 

Zanuka is hacked up warframes and tenno.

[JerZeyCJ]

Maybe for Warframe's next anniversary, DE could do a pre-Corpus Valkyr skin for her.

[Ailissa]

Maybe for Warframe's next anniversary, DE could do a pre-Corpus Valkyr skin for her.

 

That would be nice.

 

I do love Valkyr but her frame isn't the best looking.

[Vorsches]

Looks badazz +1

[Mesyra]

I like this thread. lotus/valkyr seems pretty logical to me. looks very good :)

[Bizzaro21]

I recently had a thought; is it a coincidence Lotus and Valkyrs helmets are so simular? The petals, overall shape and focus light in the forehead, suggest a connection.

Was there a bigger plan there that was never explored?

A wild notion then entred my mind. What if the Lotus wore a warframe at times when not hooked up to the Tenno Network? If she indeed have a body, this make sense.

What if Valkyr was that warframe?

I descided to put this theory to the test. I did not intend this to be a Prime, but based it's appearance on Lotus.

Love to get your thoughts on this!

In order to progress with my current project of designing Valkyr before Corpus found her and ripped her warframe open, I need the oppinion of the Forum.

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Looks looks like we might have to do 3 sets of armor depending on helm configuration.

1) Default "Leaf-plated" Lotus armor?

2) Kara. Occulus Rift. Borg style?

3) Bastet. People say cat. I say basilisk. Scales and spikes?

Please comment on what you would like me to add/change.

Areas of interest are:

1) Head obviously.

2) Shoulders.

3) Chest and back plating.

4) Thigh and kneepads

5) Gauntlets/ lower arm armour

6) Boots/ankles

One or more may apply.

The work will be updated in this thread:

https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/313770-valkyr-3d-model-in-progress-before-the-experiment-wip269-t-pose-added/

Thanks!

Arch111

Tip on how to draw her before corpus designer touch: remove all spikes and make her look a bit friendly. oh and she probably had a face instead of that half skull i say corpus did this to her head....

That would be nice.

 

I do love Valkyr but her frame isn't the best looking.

disagreed on that she looks pretty good with noble/agile animation

[Bizzaro21]

You're playing pre corpus Zanuka.

 

Zanuka is hacked up warframes and tenno.

"Ala v`s newest prototype is a monstrousity forged from the bodies of out fallen tenno....."

[arch111]

@Bizzaro21

Ok I'm curious. How do you propose she looked pre corpus then?

When you say remove spikes, this just leave her looking vulnerable.

The body have clear "energy points"; shoulders, ribs, arms, knees. Feels like armour goes there.

The "skull", do you mean the facemask?

Are you suggesting it was added on by corpus?

I find it unlikely since the "lens" and arch is clearly part of the sublayer of the warframe.

But I am interested in what you think was there in it's place.

[VampirePirate]

I like the leaf-shaped scale mail armor concept the best.  looks like it fits perfectly, based on what is left of the armor on her head.

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

I think you're over-thinking it.

[arch111]

I think you're over-thinking it.

Hm?

[Blatantfool]

I think you're over-thinking it.

 

 Is that such a bad thing? I happen to think both his 1st and 4th image are worthy of being in-game skins.

[arch111]

Thanks for saying so. Warms this old soul ;)

As for over thinking, is there such a thing? DE rely on us to give feedback and be invested in the future of their game.

If we all just stopped digging for Lore, gave up on concepts and new mechanics , I think the game would be poorer for it.

But hey, that's just me. I happen to love Lore and try to think outside the box as much as my tinfoil hat allows.

[arch111]

I finally made an accurate drawing of Valkyrs default helmet using the actual model as reference.

After mirroring this I feel this is what it looked like before the experiment, when DE designed it.

Now I have had a new idea. Remember my Valkyrie wings? Well, what if the arch, with the third "eye" and the "mask" was actually hidden beneath a faceplate?

These parts are metal and clearly part if the warframe sub-layer, just look at any image of her damaged side.

So what if I try to add this missing piece to her, by attaching it over this Y structure?

Here's the fun part! What did ut look like? Plain? Elaborate Prime? Viking helmet style?

I think energy-braids would look awesome on her, now that these things are catching on on female warframes.

I will do some sketching soon, but I love to hear some ideas too.

[Oystar]

valkyr always seemed to me an unfinished prototype that was abandoned because she still had a will of her own  and replaced with zanuka i dont think there was an original frame i think she could have a finished version though 

[arch111]

valkyr always seemed to me an unfinished prototype that was abandoned because she still had a will of her own  and replaced with zanuka i dont think there was an original frame i think she could have a finished version though

I strongly dissagree. Valkyr was a noble, and kind warrior who excelled at close combat.

she was fitted with control-harnesses in an attempt to create a Tenno mercenary on a Corpus leach.

There might be armor based on Valkyr, but corpus cannot build warframes.

[VampirePirate]

valkyr always seemed to me an unfinished prototype that was abandoned because she still had a will of her own  and replaced with zanuka i dont think there was an original frame i think she could have a finished version though 

Lore strongly implies that there was the original valkyr.  there is no arguing against it.  The question is, what was she like before Alad V got to her?

[VampirePirate]

I finally made an accurate drawing of Valkyrs default helmet using the actual model as reference.

After mirroring this I feel this is what it looked like before the experiment, when DE designed it.

Now I have had a new idea. Remember my Valkyrie wings? Well, what if the arch, with the third "eye" and the "mask" was actually hidden beneath a faceplate?

These parts are metal and clearly part if the warframe sub-layer, just look at any image of her damaged side.

So what if I try to add this missing piece to her, by attaching it over this Y structure?

Here's the fun part! What did ut look like? Plain? Elaborate Prime? Viking helmet style?

I think energy-braids would look awesome on her, now that these things are catching on on female warframes.

I will do some sketching soon, but I love to hear some ideas too.

When looking at the head of Valkyr, front and rear, I see that the greenish armor did not connect into  tip at the top rear, but instead may have ended in two protruding tips with space between them.  If so, then what covered the head between those protruding tips?

[Othergrunty]

Lore strongly implies that there was the original valkyr.  there is no arguing against it.  The question is, what was she like before Alad V got to her?

 

Actualy it's unclear what "original" refers to.

 

https://warframe.com/game/warframes

"Forged in the labs of the Zanuka project, the original Valkyr was subject to cruel experiments, leaving her scarred, angry and frighteningly adept at killing."

"Remnants of the bonds that restrained the original Valkyr during her time in 'the lab'. A reminder to never forget the torment."

 

The problem is that one could easily read this in two different ways.

Either:

1. The original Valkyr, refers to the one who escaped from Corpus experiments. Meaning she is the original to many replicas we use right now. Similar to how there once was an original Mirage who died fighting the Sentients. The wording actualy points more towards this.

 

Or:

2. The original Valkyr refers to the version of the Warframe which existed before the Corpus experiments, that changed her into the new version we have now. 

 

So there is some legit thinking behind his interpretation. Though i agree that all bits of information more point towards Valkyr being an escapd "prisoner" rather than escaped "creation", which would point towards a pre-experiment version existing.

Valkyr has no detail that would speak for a creation of the Corpus and the restraints wouldn't have been so messily inserted, but rather build into the Warframe itself.

 

Also the Zanuka project and other informations make it clear that the Corpus do not have the knowledge on how to create Warframes.

 

The problem with knowing what "the original" is meant to be, is also that DE has not yet made it clear what exactly the player represents (many different Tenno or one with multiple Warframes) and if multiple Warframes of the same type can exist at the same time.

The prologe story for example would imply that we are all just ONE hero Tenno, each of us not being a different individual but an alternate version of the same character, who for gameplay sake exist at the same time. Ala Dark Souls.

 

So confusion of description is something that comes easily.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Othergrunty

[arch111]

This confusion has emerged in 10 threads in the past weeks alone, and the debate of what the Tenno are and how the warframe functions will continue until Steve puts it to rest, maby not even then knowing this community.

The same confusion exist in Mirage, and it is implied that warframes store neurological data; the Imprint.

This carries on to the wearer and is inherently connected to the Tenno/Void parasitical bonding : one cannot be used without the other.

This is off topic I am aware. However since you challenge that Valkyr is even a Tenno, this must be said.

Only the Orokin could create a warframe. Even Nova is no longer connected to the Tenno Council.

I do not believe for a moment Valkyr Prime share the theme or look of Valkyr.

That in a way, is what this thread is for, to figure Valkyr out.

[BraverLeech37]

you are over thinking it a bit but who cares theses frames are cool I would love to have mission where you have to play as the lotus frame