TannoGod1984 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) if there is one thing to I really hate about this amazing Game outside of the game breaking bugs is the Mastery Test I never understood why we need em to rank up afterall It takes forever to rank up anyway and it's just a waste of time to have mastery test .. I really think they should be removed anyway as there broken and bugged on PS4 as well.. but the most annoying part that really irritates me like no tomorrow is the stupid 24 hour cool down period whoever bright idea this was is either on drugs or was smoking weed. and needs to be FIRED because for all the time we waste trying to reach the point of ranking up then for as hard and as stupid as some of these test are there should be no 24 hour limit because some of these are insanely hard and if you fail em multiple days it could take weeks to pass vs a few days to a week the system is flawed and needs reworked or removed completely and just add even more points required to rank up instead otherwise remove the 24 hour restriction once a day is not enough to get used to trying to figure out the test we should be allowed unlimited test until we pass I don't care if it takes me 50 tires as long as im allowed to re enter and keep trying till I pass if u cant do it unlimited atleast allow us to take the test again every 3 to 4 hours this way we have more chances to get a feel for the test to the point we can eventully pass it.. but it's time to either remove the mastery test all together or remove the 24 hour wait limit that's flat out wrong stupid and a sign of ignorence by forcing people to wait a day over stupid test. no other company ever forces you to pass a test in order too rank up but if they did they sure as heck wouldn't be dumb enough to make u wait 24 hours if something isn't done to these test I will get in touch with the BBB and have EM force you to do something cuz it's not right... I know for a fact mastery rank 13 is an utter joke cuz I cant figure this one out it is BS just like Rank 8 was and the system is flawed please fix it by either removing the test from game or removing the 24 hour wait it;'s one or the other thank u Edited September 28, 2014 by TannoGod1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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arolust Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I love the mastery tests and would prefer them to be A LOT harder. When a person is a certain mastery rank I want assurances that they know what they are doing, not that they just played the game for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VioDuskar Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) "no other company ever forces you to pass a test in order too rank up but if they did they sure as heck wouldn't be dumb enough to make u wait 24 hours" ever heard of the military? they make you wait years. dude, you must be making this as a troll tread! just because you failed a test you think the system is flawed? honestly, these test are there for a reason. so i know if you get to rank13 you know what you're doing. hell, i failed the rank 7 to 8 test 7 times, it took me 10 days to be victorious. but it was a learning experience. these test teach you about game mechanics and hone your reaction time and accuracy. TL;DR? get gud scrub Protip, someone has gotten that MR before you.just look at the video on youtube to see how it's done and that will help you know what gear to bring. Edited September 28, 2014 by VioDuskar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravalite Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 But you can always retry though so I don't understand why you have a problem with the wait period. It's not like it destroys the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannoGod1984 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 fine but we don't need the stupid 24 hour limit and We shouldn't be FROCED to wait 24 hours just to take it again.. like I said allow us the chance to get a feel for these test by allowing us to re do it every 3 to 4 hours if we fail as it's no lock we would pass it that quick anyway but atleast it gives us more chances too this game is time cosuming enough I don't need to have more time wasted by being forced to wait 24 hours for to retake a lame test every 3 to 4 hours is more then enough and maybe you will get more people interested in this game by doing this but it's time for the 24 hour limit to go like I said it's 1 or the other thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Saske Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I love the mastery test too. And i don't see the problem, in the end mastery rank is just a number. Ok til rank 8 you unlock stuff, but tests aren't that hard and if you fail and have to wait 24h, it is not a big deal you can just keep leveing weapons and frames, because you get those points after you past the test. I can understand it is anyoing to wait the 24h after failing, but you could look the test up on the wiki before doing it and prepare, after that it is just skill. Only problem in the system right now is failing a test because of connection problems for example still gives you the 24h penaltiy, but like i said waiting is not that of a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaGoFast Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 You must be new to free to play games. Let me tell you about something called Nexon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 24 hours may be a little harsh (a little) but outright removing it?! What the Ruk man? (0.o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnProdman Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) It wouldn't be 'Mastery' if it let you just blitz your way to completion. You're supposed to go out and really practice the test if you fail and reflect on where you went wrong. Feel free to stop playing the game. Nobody will miss you. Edited September 28, 2014 by JohnProdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AureusVulpes Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Getting away from negativity, it's not like failing a test holds you back from making progress toward the next rank. I failed plenty of tests in my ranking up. Most of the time it was due to a mechanic I had neglected any attention to. The mastery test encouraged me to learn the mechanic between attempts, and now I find myself using most mechanics quite often. Working as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannoGod1984 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 See John this is the problem with people like you and why DE takes advantage of customers like us people people like you suck up too them like your on there payroll.. which is why the never bother to fix stupid things like this. idgaf if ti's a mastery test or not point is we shouldn't be forced to wait 24 hours over a worthless turd test there are enough issues with this game as it is with game breaking bugs that it's truning people off and I know people who have quit playing this game due to the flawed system that is the mastery test and there stupid 24 hr wait period look if anything remove the 24 hour limit because I even ran into the issue where the game would just freeze or crash when getting ready to do the test then im forced to wait 24 hours for a test I never took so I never failed it but cuz game froze it fails u this isn;t right and is why the 24 hour limit must go because people can't help if there game crashes or freezes at the wrong time they sure as hell shouldn;t be punished for it by not being allowed to take a test 24 hours later that they never got to take to begin with.. that's where people like u fail to see where the system is flawed that;s why the 24 hour cool down period needs to be reduced if not removed incase the game decides to give u a screw job atlesst you have another shot the redoing the test that day.. so if anything reduce the 24 hour limit that's all cya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnProdman Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 See John this is the problem with people like you and why DE takes advantage of customers like us people people like you suck up too them like your on there payroll.. which is why the never bother to fix stupid things like this. idgaf if ti's a mastery test or not point is we shouldn't be forced to wait 24 hours over a worthless turd test there are enough issues with this game as it is with game breaking bugs that it's truning people off and I know people who have quit playing this game due to the flawed system that is the mastery test and there stupid 24 hr wait period look if anything remove the 24 hour limit because I even ran into the issue where the game would just freeze or crash when getting ready to do the test then im forced to wait 24 hours for a test I never took so I never failed it but cuz game froze it fails u this isn;t right and is why the 24 hour limit must go because people can't help if there game crashes or freezes at the wrong time they sure as hell shouldn;t be punished for it by not being allowed to take a test 24 hours later that they never got to take to begin with.. that's where people like u fail to see where the system is flawed that;s why the 24 hour cool down period needs to be reduced if not removed incase the game decides to give u a screw job atlesst you have another shot the redoing the test that day.. so if anything reduce the 24 hour limit that's all cya Stop playing, then. You clearly haven't and never will support the game and nobody is making you play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchBlood Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Free to play game. Easy way to extend the life, add wait times. The waiting 24 hours isn't bad. One must wait a single day? Oh, no! Just do something else while you wait and don't fixate on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hiero_Glyph Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) I could see merit in reducing the retry interval to 12 hours (from 24). Still, failing really only matters at lower mastery ranks where you can gain several ranks during that 24 hour period and then must wait another 24 hours to attempt the next one. Personally, I feel that passing a mastery rank test should allow you to immediately attempt the next one instead of making you wait 24 hours as a way to remedy the bottleneck at lower ranks. In this manner the wait period is simply a penalty for failing since no test is that difficult (I'm MR16). Besides, with a 12 hour interval most players would likely just fail twice as often. Edited September 28, 2014 by (PS4)Hiero_Glyph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Himari- Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Moved to a proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Mastery is needed ands if anything it should be put to more use There are no defined tiers of weapons and gameplay You can easily jump straight to the end with a single weapon at R 0-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOCKED Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I have no problem with the mastery rank tests. Some of them are challenging, but none are too hard. Fail the test; try again tomorrow. That's plenty reasonable to me. This idea of "being forced" is incorrect. So, one doesn't rank up one day but will rank up the next (or the next)... There's nothing lost in the interim as experience continues to accumulate. The system works and I suggest the real problem is in the user failing to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwarrior Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Mastery Ranks ranks 24h restriction forces you to think about the challenge and figure out how to do it instead of mindlessly zerg rushing while obliviously ignoring game mechanics that easily would get the challenge done. The Tests force you to actually think and to make youself better by acknowledging and using all of the game's mechanics effectively making you a better player. I think the mastery tests, if anything, they should be more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannoGod1984 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) but see here the problem I took a Mastery Rank Test today and the game froze forcing a restart ok so in otherwords I now have to wait 24 hours because of the flawed system... look it can't be helped if someone game crashed or froze at the wrong time but they shouldn't be penalized for it.. in other words john stop sucking up to DE there in the wrong here and have a flawed system and they know it but are to ignorant to fix it.. so im going to type the key words in caps so hopefully you will understand my game froze upon entering the test requiring a restart of the app. NOW im FORCED to wait 24HOURS to retake a test I NEVER got to TAKE. so I can't FIAL a TEST I NEVER TOOK. that is what is flawed with the test and is why the 24 hour limit must go or be reduced to maybe 4 to 12 hrs as it's not our fault if the game pukes out on us.. do u get it now point is you know it we all know it the 24 hr limit is wrong and needs reduced because the crashing Is happening more then normal now which is why the change needs to be made.. don't force people to wait to retake a test they never got to take so they never ever failed the test see where im getting with this.. have this happen too u and I bet u will be upset and screaming for a change cuz unless ur on DE payroll u should know it's not right and needs reworked believe me I had it happen multiple times and today was the last straw which is why I made this thread as DE needs to know it time for a change cuz this cannot be allowed to continue to happen to people maybe u been lucky and have yet too experience it but still it's wrong and a change must be made for the better of the game cya Edited September 28, 2014 by TannoGod1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 but see here the problem I took a Mastery Rank Test today and the game froze forcing a restart ok so in otherwords I now have to wait 24 hours because of the flawed system... look it can't be helped if someone game crashed or froze at the wrong time but they shouldn't be penalized for it.. in other words john stop sucking up to DE there in the wrong here and have a flawed system and they know it but are to ignorant to fix it.. so im going to type the key words in caps so hopefully you will understand my game froze upon entering the test requiring a restart of the app. NOW im FORCED to wait 24HOURS to retake a test I NEVER got to TAKE. so I can't FIAL a TEST I NEVER TOOK. that is what is flawed with the test and is why the 24 hour limit but go or be reduced to maybe 4 to 12 hrs as it's not our fault if the game pukes out on us.. do u get it now point is you know it we all know it the 24 hr limit is wrong and needs reduced because the crashing I happening more then normal now which is why the change needs to be made.. don't force people to wait to retake a test they never got to take so they never ever failed the test see where im getting with this.. have this happen too u and I bet u will be upset and screaming for a change cuz unless ur on DE payroll u should know it's not right and needs reworked believe me I had it happen multiple times and today was the last straw which is why I made this thread as DE needs to know it time for a change cuz this cannot be allowed to continue to happen to people maybe u been lucky and have yet too experience it but still it's wrong and a changed must be made for the better of the game cya Yeah no People would abuse this Like they did with keys no disappearing And thats why that got changed No more leaving at 20 minutes to keep your key if you dont get what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryozar Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Look, we don't really have a "you need to be this lvl to do this" limit, so instead you have mastery ranks to access different stuff with the tests to make sure you know what you're doing. You have nothing to lose in failing the test except maybe your ego seeing your ign has "god" in it. If the test is bugged, did you try submitting a ticket saying "hey this test froze on me before i could take it, can you fix it" or posting exactly which test it was? All i read was the rant of a 12 year old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TannoGod1984 Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) that's keys ok and I can understand that but people can't abuse a mastery test like they can keys look if anything the wait time should be atleast 8 hrs b4 u can redo the test that's enough to try it atleast twice a day just in case someone game froze atleast they would have 1 more chance that day to redo the test an 8 hour cool down period is long enough and still prevents abuse the keys are a different and im ok with that cuz it's been done to me where the host aborted the game cuz he never got what he wants but that's a topic for another day so if they still want to prevent abuse then atleast make it an 8 hour wait as that's enough for a test to be done twice a day that's way more fair then the 24 hour wait for something you can't control I could live with waitng 8 hours but 24hours is a little too much thx Edited September 28, 2014 by TannoGod1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arolust Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 LMAO, nexon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AureusVulpes Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I saw a suggestion in another thread similar to this, stating that the mastery tests should be associated with daily resets instead of a hard timer. I would be OK with this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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