Semshol Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Increase damage from 25 to 36. Status Chance increased to 15% from 10%. That is all that will be needed to make it more viable for super end-game play. It's a small buff, but I think we'd see more Braton Primes in the game if this came to pass :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudeManThingDude Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 it needs no change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 It sadly does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Increase damage from 25 to 36. Status Chance increased to 15% from 10%. That is all that will be needed to make it more viable for super end-game play. It's a small buff, but I think we'd see more Braton Primes in the game if this came to pass :) And you killed Burston prime with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 And you killed Burston prime with that Burston Prime has more base and due to burst first, better status chance. Braton Prime won't come close. I'd be happy with 32 base and 15% status, if to keep it further away from Burston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomicakes Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Braton Prime is fine as is. It's already an infested-murdering beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quimey Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Braton Prime is fine as is. It's already an infested-murdering beast. NO dude, braton really needs a buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fracture8 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) It really does need a buff, and has needed one ever since prime power creep began. It was average when it was first released, but is now useless. Braton Prime is fine as is. It's already an infested-murdering beast. Yes and while it may murder infested up to level 30. Anything thats not infested and beyond level 30 will probably react to the BratonP's bullets in the same way someone has water flicked in their face. Edited October 9, 2014 by KilelrDrone492 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) To me, balance is being able to fight level 70+ mobs. Braton Prime cannot do that as effectively/efficiently as other weapons in the Prime tier. Burston Prime CAN, very easily, Boltor Prime can with some difficulty here and there. Hence Braton prime needs a buff. Things are underpowered if content is balanced to level 30 mobs when that part of the game lasts for like what...15 minutes tops? Edited October 2, 2014 by Semshol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) 8.8 impact 8.8 puncture 16.4 slash? Those sound like good numbers to anyone else? Comes out to 34 base damage. I'd even suggest buffing the critical chance to 12%, and critical multiplier to 2.0x, as the Bratons are kind of expected to use crit mods to match the raw damage bullet hoses (Braton vs Karak or Boltor for example.) Btw, to me, balance is about making it to wave 15/20 minutes in T3 with some trouble. Everything after that was probably meant to be considerably tougher, but DE doesn't seem to mind the ridiculous distance people can go in endless content too much. Edited September 30, 2014 by Littleman88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Veg1ta Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Yep agreed, needs a buff, decent weapon, thou in its current state it doesnt deserve the name prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 It needs more base damage and maybe firing rate. I wouldn't change anything else on it. It's a good weapon, but just old. It needs updated in a manner similar to what was done to the Latron Prime. The main issue is that it's a T3 weapon that is roughly equivalent to a weapon that is often the first thing beginning players build: the Karak. This needs to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavienh5 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Braton Prime is a prime weapon meaning alot of grinding and then its not that strong, just a bit stronger than ur STARTER weapon of Warframe so I call for a buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 8.8 impact 8.8 puncture 16.4 slash? Those sound like good numbers to anyone else? Comes out to 34 base damage. I'd even suggest buffing the critical chance to 12%, and critical multiplier to 2.0x, as the Bratons are kind of expected to use crit mods to match the raw damage bullet hoses (Braton vs Karak or Boltor for example.) Btw, to me, balance is about making it to wave 15/20 minutes in T3 with some trouble. Everything after that was probably meant to be considerably tougher, but DE doesn't seem to mind the ridiculous distance people can go in endless content too much. 12% is not enough for crit modding, besides status is more important due to enemy's infinite scaling. So a status buff would shift the Braton Prime to viable top-tier on par with the Burston prime at least. Braton Prime is a prime weapon meaning alot of grinding and then its not that strong, just a bit stronger than ur STARTER weapon of Warframe so I call for a buff This is true. It needs more base damage and maybe firing rate. I wouldn't change anything else on it. It's a good weapon, but just old. It needs updated in a manner similar to what was done to the Latron Prime. The main issue is that it's a T3 weapon that is roughly equivalent to a weapon that is often the first thing beginning players build: the Karak. This needs to change. Agreed, the karak can even be considered better, which is what is wrong with it. Status needs a change, base needs a change, but fire-rate I'm VEEERY iffy, on, I don't think that needs much of a tweak ^^; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markus230 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Braton Vandal also need buff (its propably most crappy exclusive weapon) Braton Vandal and Prime the same stats so i think DE should add some dmg for both weapons Edited October 2, 2014 by markus230 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quizel Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 .... will probably react to the BratonP's bullets in the same way someone has water flicked in their face. Lol. The imagery. Anyway, I agree under the assumption Prime means should be competitive with other endgame weapons. 44% base dps increase-suppose that's not asking for too much considering where it is at. Not a fan of reload times myself, I'd ask for reload time improvement as well but I'm greedy like that. Wonder if this will happen 2014 O_o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 Lol. The imagery. Anyway, I agree under the assumption Prime means should be competitive with other endgame weapons. 44% base dps increase-suppose that's not asking for too much considering where it is at. Not a fan of reload times myself, I'd ask for reload time improvement as well but I'm greedy like that. Wonder if this will happen 2014 O_o. I am hoping it does. The buff is not significant enough to make this the new meta, but it is JUST enough to make it very competitive for those of us who enjoy tricking out our weapons. Reload time is alrightish, I'd ask for a reload cancel rather than a statistical buff, because that adds a skill element too, sorta x'D Braton Vandal also need buff (its propably most crappy exclusive weapon) Braton Vandal and Prime the same stats so i think DE should add some dmg for both weapons Would be good if the vandal got some love too, I ain't against that :) But I can only do a proper run down for the prime as I only have the prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)atpbx Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Is this still not done yet? How much effort does it take to change 6 numbers FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaomega04 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Is this still not done yet? How much effort does it take to change 6 numbers FFS. Considering about 12 of these thread have been completely ignored, and apparently devs didn't even know they exist (when it was brought up in the last dev stream) and yet the acrid got a buff (da fuk?), I'd say if we're lucky we'll get it in a year or two. Game needs a balancing pass BADLY. DPS and mastery ranks are currently all over the place and power creep is in full force. But hey, it's not like we're beta testing or anything like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atpbx1 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 It makes you wonder if they are playing the same game us to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 Considering about 12 of these thread have been completely ignored, and apparently devs didn't even know they exist (when it was brought up in the last dev stream) and yet the acrid got a buff (da fuk?), I'd say if we're lucky we'll get it in a year or two. Game needs a balancing pass BADLY. DPS and mastery ranks are currently all over the place and power creep is in full force. But hey, it's not like we're beta testing or anything like that... Well I shall attempt to keep this one alive... x'D It makes you wonder if they are playing the same game us to be fair. They are, they just don't use the braton prime probably :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaomega04 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Well I shall attempt to keep this one alive... x'D They are, they just don't use the braton prime probably :D It's so underpowered even THEY don't use it :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 It's so underpowered even THEY don't use it :P Haha, well technically it does fine up until around wave 20 But unlike other weapons that last till 35, this one falls off early so yeaaah that's a problem. If they played to 20 there's no problem Anyway, gotta keep this thread alive x'D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semshol Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Surprisingly I see so many buff threads for the newly released weapon and yet no one cares about the overlooked prime. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkillo32 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Braton Vandal also need buff (its propably most crappy exclusive weapon) Braton Vandal and Prime the same stats so i think DE should add some dmg for both weapons -looks at sheev- nah i think braton vandal still somewhat decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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