Matiny Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 ...but there's nothing wrong with the challenge. Obviously, there's something wrong with your Valkyr build if you die in under 2 seconds. http://i.imgur.com/gehSQrm.png In fact, I was soloing and getting killed faster than I could hit the 4 button. Besides that, it helps if you can monitor your health and energy in order to even use Hysteria with proper timing. In order to win, you gotta be on some type of even better build than the garbage I have. At which point, you don't need the Nightmare Mods. B/c your build is good enough that WTF is Lethal Torrent going to do? You already kick asss *before* you get the mods, so why do you need them. But there's nothing wrong with the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1ples1xer Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 You guys keep asking for challenge, have fun dying now , that is what you wanted ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 What guys? Oh well, I'm not one of them. As I've said before, if people want challenges, remove all mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aure7 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Rewards need to scale on the difficulty of these missions. People already got everything they needed from low level venus so high level nightmares are empty even though they're fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr1ples1xer Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 What guys? Oh well, I'm not one of them. As I've said before, if people want challenges, remove all mods. I agree with you, but I keep seeing people say more challenge more challenge, to me its about fun and dying isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphafox Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 You guys keep asking for challenge, have fun dying now , that is what you wanted !Nighmare mode? Challenge?Hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRufus7x Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Some people are never happy. The challenge is not that bad, you just have to be properly prepared. Try using a frame that isn't as power dependent as Valkyr. Also, if you need help, try grouping up. Also Lethal Torrent is extremely useful on late game builds, as are many of the nightmare mods. Rewards need to scale on the difficulty of these missions. People already got everything they needed from low level venus so high level nightmares are empty even though they're fun. I do agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) I don't mean to knock you... But your Valkyr setup is all over the place. You should max Continuity (5 in V), Flow (9) and Stream line (9). Removing Constitution will free up just enough points for those (5 + 3 + 3 = 11). You will get more energy reserves, requiring only 75 energy to cast hysteria and last 30% longer. Constitution should only come in as the last duration mod if Narrow minded is not an option. Edited October 3, 2014 by fatpig84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matiny Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 I don't mean to knock you... But your Valkyr setup is all over the place. You should max Continuity (5 in V), Flow (9) and Stream line (9). Removing Constitution will free up just enough points for those (5 + 3 + 3 = 11). You will get more energy reserves, requiring only 75 energy to cast hysteria and last 30% longer. Constitution should only come in as the last duration mod if Narrow minded is not an option. I don't have Continuity. I do have Narrow Minded, though. I guess I'll use that in place of Constitution... I only had that in there to resist Blast damage aka "you're out in 5 seconds" damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Rewards need to be relative to the challenge effect. No shields should have a different drop table compared to low gravity. Also, you should have some form of control over the challenge effect type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Veg1ta Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 If ur gonna run nightmare bring a frame thats up to the job rhino/ash/loki/trinity every frame has its gamemode and advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) If ur gonna run nightmare bring a frame thats up to the job rhino/ash/loki/trinity every frame has its gamemode and advantages. An armor + vitality tank + life strike + rage valkyr works fine there. Since no shields and no energy won't really bother her due to her innate tankiness. Her effective HP is high due to her taking over 20% damage or less from enemies, so even your health restores become extremely effective. Hysteria Valkyries are too much of a hit and miss for me in nightmare. Edited October 4, 2014 by fatpig84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Veg1ta Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I know Valkyr can run no shield nightmare no problem, i didnt mention her because so far the OP is struggling with said warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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