Eggzodiya Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I just maxed Trinity a few minutes ago, and I have to say, I feel a bit bad for people who play as her. About 13 minutes into a survival mission on Pluto (Palus), people realized that there's a Trinity in the midst. I hadn't used any of my powers (I came with energy vampire and blessing) just because it wasn't needed yet, until a Mag was near death and my conscience told me to intervene. Mag: "There's a Trinity in the group?" Rhino: "Yeah, why?" Mag: "Cool, I don't have to think anymore. Trinity, keep healing please." Me: "... what?" Oberon: "Lol." Me: "What do I look like, a nurse?" Rhino/Mag: "Yes." Oberon: "Lol." About 5 minutes later, I decided I wouldn't heal for a minute just to see how long they'd last. Not 10 seconds later, the Rhino and Mag were down. Oberon was holding his own pretty well. He ran into a group of Corpus somethings, used Reckoning, and immediately proceeded in reviving Rhino. I like what he did; cc the mass of baddies and while they fight each other, he revives his teammate. Mag died because she was too far away, but later revived herself. I understand the importance of having a healer in the group, but that doesn't give people the green light to throw their brains in the back seat without a seat belt. Anyway, now that she's maxed, I doubt I'll be on her again. She's great and all, but I don't want to pick up peoples' slack just because they think they're invincible with a Trinity present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) I just maxed Trinity a few minutes ago, and I have to say, I feel a bit bad for people who play as her. About 13 minutes into a survival mission on Pluto (Palus), people realized that there's a Trinity in the midst. I hadn't used any of my powers (I came with energy vampire and blessing) just because it wasn't needed yet, until a Mag was near death and my conscience told me to intervene. Mag: "There's a Trinity in the group?" Rhino: "Yeah, why?" Mag: "Cool, I don't have to think anymore. Trinity, keep healing please." Me: "... what?" Oberon: "Lol." Me: "What do I look like, a nurse?" Rhino/Mag: "Yes." Oberon: "Lol." About 5 minutes later, I decided I wouldn't heal for a minute just to see how long they'd last. Not 10 seconds later, the Rhino and Mag were down. Oberon was holding his own pretty well. He ran into a group of Corpus somethings, used Reckoning, and immediately proceeded in reviving Rhino. I like what he did; cc the mass of baddies and while they fight each other, he revives his teammate. Mag died because she was too far away, but later revived herself. I understand the importance of having a healer in the group, but that doesn't give people the green light to throw their brains in the back seat without a seat belt. Anyway, now that she's maxed, I doubt I'll be on her again. She's great and all, but I don't want to pick up peoples' slack just because they think they're invincible with a Trinity present. you're going to have to do that anyway lol the higher your mastery the more people think they can just lean on and let you do all the work. Youll just have to accept that unless you have a premade group you will most likely be carrying xP I agree though, what they said and did was rather stupid, just because youre trinity doesnt mean you want to baby sit Edited October 5, 2014 by Echoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 when i'm in the mood for Trinity, i spend most of my time supplying Energy or just picking up high HP Enemies and making Energy Vampire do hilarious DPS. and i heal people from time to time when they need it. i'm not going to babysit them though, i check the Player List from time to time and Heal if necessary. sometimes it's surprising how much Power usage doesn't go up when they have literally Infinite Energy. but, what can you do. they're called PuG's for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneTonberry Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I agree though, what they said and did was rather stupid, just because youre trinity doesnt mean you want to baby sit But Nannyframe best frame. In all seriousness though yeah that was kinda silly. Legitimately even if you were going to babysit them you can't 100% guarantee you're going to be able to heal them on demand. Lag, energy drain, knockdowns, not paying absolute perfect attention to their health bars because you're killing something nasty. There's any number of reasons why you wouldn't be able to heal them whenever they get into trouble. Having a Trinity in the group is no reason to just shut your brain off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Never did find them that much useful as i dont relay on other for my survival. Only power that i find useful on Trinity is EV, and its helluva power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggzodiya Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) It was a bit amusing to watch them for a while, then it quickly became stupid. 21 minutes in, Mag and I ran into a room full of elite crewmen and fusion MOAs and she literally melted while I was reloading my latron wraith, behind a metal crate while crouching. I proceeded to getting blamed for her death. I was at a loss for words. Edited October 5, 2014 by Eggzodiya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyojinOrion Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I just maxed Trinity a few minutes ago, and I have to say, I feel a bit bad for people who play as her. About 13 minutes into a survival mission on Pluto (Palus), people realized that there's a Trinity in the midst. I hadn't used any of my powers (I came with energy vampire and blessing) just because it wasn't needed yet, until a Mag was near death and my conscience told me to intervene. Mag: "There's a Trinity in the group?" Rhino: "Yeah, why?" Mag: "Cool, I don't have to think anymore. Trinity, keep healing please." Me: "... what?" Oberon: "Lol." Me: "What do I look like, a nurse?" Rhino/Mag: "Yes." Oberon: "Lol." About 5 minutes later, I decided I wouldn't heal for a minute just to see how long they'd last. Not 10 seconds later, the Rhino and Mag were down. Oberon was holding his own pretty well. He ran into a group of Corpus somethings, used Reckoning, and immediately proceeded in reviving Rhino. I like what he did; cc the mass of baddies and while they fight each other, he revives his teammate. Mag died because she was too far away, but later revived herself. I understand the importance of having a healer in the group, but that doesn't give people the green light to throw their brains in the back seat without a seat belt. Anyway, now that she's maxed, I doubt I'll be on her again. She's great and all, but I don't want to pick up peoples' slack just because they think they're invincible with a Trinity present. Exactly why I only played my Trinity for mastery. That, and when I was leveling her, she had the Godmode ability that just ruined any fun in the game by making everything way too easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea_Wall Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 No, Pugs are like that with or without Trin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkillo32 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 you're going to have to do that anyway lol the higher your mastery the more people think they can just lean on and let you do all the work. Youll just have to accept that unless you have a premade group you will most likely be carrying xP I agree though, what they said and did was rather stupid, just because youre trinity doesnt mean you want to baby sit lol trinity in my group or not it's not that hard to not get downed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draciusen Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) "Lol." -Oberon 2014 On a side note, how do you get the HUD to display your teammates health/shields on the side like I see other players do? As in, the default hotkey? Found it. Edited October 5, 2014 by Draciusen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercurialAirSpectre Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 whenever I see/have a trinity on the squad, I expect trinity to do her job i.e healing but I never demand to be heal because good players know what roles are in the mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakshal Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't even play Trinity and I know this is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 lol trinity in my group or not it's not that hard to not get downed it isnt, but that doesnt mean people arent going to solely because they think they can just rambo around and get revived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyojinOrion Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 whenever I see/have a trinity on the squad, I expect trinity to do her job i.e healing but I never demand to be heal because good players know what roles are in the mission. If I see a Trinity in the group, I expect to be healed, but I don't expect to healed when I need to be healed, and I certainly never demand that I be healed. I ask nicely if anything at all, but that is pretty rare because I am usually pretty good about keeping my health up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggzodiya Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) No, Pugs are like that with or without Trin. The difference is if Trinity is present, they have someone to blame. Honestly, it's not hard to stay alive. Hide behind cover and shoot from afar instead of turning the brain off and going bullet-crazy, hoping they hit/kill something. Hiding may gain less kills, but the dead deal no damage. They don't contribute anything to the party. I wish some people would understand that. Edited October 5, 2014 by Eggzodiya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercurialAirSpectre Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 It was a bit amusing to watch them for a while, then it quickly became stupid. 21 minutes in, Mag and I ran into a room full of elite crewmen and fusion MOAs and she literally melted while I was reloading my latron wraith, behind a metal crate while crouching. I proceeded to getting blamed for her death. I was at a loss for words. i dont wanna be that guy but blaming trinity for mag's incompetence is just plain noob. mag is awesome, very capable and shouldn't be downed easily and 21min into palus is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 i dont wanna be that guy but blaming trinity for mag's incompetence is just plain noob. mag is awesome, very capable and shouldn't be downed easily and 21min into palus is nothing. let alone in a corpus mission at all lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Frankly, I agree with you. Trinity players shouldn't be forced to pick up the slack from other players. Also, with an Oberon in the group, he/she should also have been healing/clearing Procs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alighierian Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Welcome to the PuG-Life. I left it long ago. Partially because of wonky MM stuff (worst connection guy being forced to host), but mostly because of the disgraces who dare calling themselves 'tenno' I ended up with far too often. I still use my 5-forma trinity whenever I feel like it, but mostly when I need to support a group or if I need to babysit my giant anorexic kubrow. She's great for support, but when going solo I have other frames which are simply more suited for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandOE Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I love being a heal-tank, using Link + melee in the thickest of situations. Yet, if I'm up close and personal, I expect the gunners to at least take non-melee range cover long enough so that when the room is cleared, I can glance at their health bars. I can't use Blessing when I'm surrounded by the worst of the worst, without making the situation such that I am the one downed. If my energy is ever topped, I simply cast it upon my next shield burst, giving at least a mild to moderate damage reduction for those in the squad. (assuming health was damaged) It's great when there's an Oberon around, too, so that between them and I, our synergy fits well. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhat.lf Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Mag: "There's a Trinity in the group?" Rhino: "Yeah, why?" Mag: "Cool, I don't have to think anymore. Trinity, keep healing please." Me: "... what?" Oberon: "Lol." Me: "What do I look like, a nurse?" Rhino/Mag: "Yes." Oberon: "Lol." That Broberon was probably like "Pfft, peasants" to the Rhino and Mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderZsolt Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 just tell them: "sry guys, i don't have blessing equipped, only link and energy vampire" and then only heal when you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailissa Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 See, now you know how we feel and now you can start to get irritated by all the tools that come to the forums saying "Trinity is easy mode and needs nerfing". Trinity could be easy mode if we didn't have to keep carrying everyone because suddenly people see a healer and who needs tactics when the mug will keep you all alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriviagene Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 no matter how many players in my group i always set my mind every man for himself because if i'm downed i'm gonna screw entire party and if u r downed u r gonna screw my fun killing time and forcing me to run on entire map just for reviving 1 person we can't read other player mind so play ur best and don't be like those mag and rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdart Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) As usual, Broberon continues being 100% aptly named. How can one player even be that full of themselves to completely ignore the team composition and making a general plan using basic warframe knowledge? How does it take nearly 15 minutes to just now realize a frame is being used? How are you that bad at survival to not realize it almost immediately? Like, you have to actively decide not to look at your teammates choice in frame in order to avoid it besides being completely ignorant on said frame teammate is using. I don't believe this honestly. There's no way someone could be so oblivious to their team in survival that it takes them nearly 15 minutes to realize a frame is being used. Edited October 5, 2014 by darthdart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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