akira_him Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 check the screenshots here http://imgur.com/a/7sQl4 left at 15 waves, killed more than 500 infested, spamming desecrate 1 fxxking mutagen sample In Derelict defense mission 2 updates ago I get at least 1 per wave(idk how often it drops now as I did not played ODD for a while) I think the devs should increase the drop rate of mutagen sample a little bit on Eris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftMeat Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Forget mutagen samples. Watch for invasions that reward already-crafted Mutagen Mass. Having to buy blueprints from the dojo then craft these parts is a waste of credits and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Welcome to Warfarm. Please ensure that you have sacrificed your first child to RNGeezus for your wish to come true. Seriously though, its random chance. What do you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Forget mutagen samples. Watch for invasions that reward already-crafted Mutagen Mass. Having to buy blueprints from the dojo then craft these parts is a waste of credits and time. I need to do the research in dojo lol Welcome to Warfarm. Please ensure that you have sacrificed your first child to RNGeezus for your wish to come true. Seriously though, its random chance. What do you expect? it guess i should try more runs, but it is just frustrating. Eris used to drop mutagen very often in the past before the derelict was added into the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSlayer1990 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 As daftmeat said do invasions, it is a much better process for farming them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 As daftmeat said do invasions, it is a much better process for farming them. I don't need mutagen mass, what I need is mutagen "SAMPLE", not getting them for reward maybe i should try MD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeloxale Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 They said it will return as a RARE Drop on Eris. It is rare and your results reflect this. I see no problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 They said it will return as a RARE Drop on Eris. It is rare and your results reflect this. I see no problem here. oh, I thought it was uncommon, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lluid Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) They said it will return as a RARE Drop on Eris. It is rare and your results reflect this. I see no problem here. Well, I see a problem, it's the decision to make them rare on Eris to begin with. Orokin Derelict Defense gives you a ton of them, because it's uncommon and not rare there. Why should there be a difference between these two places ? In other words, from a game design point of view, why would you "prevent" the few players who want mutagen samples from having a choice between two decent drop locations, each with a nice tileset ? Honestly it just feels inconsistent to me. Worse, there is no way to know the drop rates in game. This kills the fun : I found myself in need of mutagen samples a few weeks ago and started farming on Eris to enjoy the nice maps and music, and then realized the drop rates were abysmal. I never went there again, sadly. About their utility, we agree that you don't really need to farm mutagen samples. But still it seems weird. Edited October 10, 2014 by Lluid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeloxale Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Well, I see a problem, it's the decision to make them rare on Eris to begin with. Orokin Derelict Defense gives you a ton of them, because it's uncommon and not rare there. Why should there be a difference between these two places ? In other words, from a game design point of view, why would you "prevent" the few players who want mutagen samples from having a choice between two decent drop locations, each with a nice tileset ? Honestly it just feels inconsistent to me. Worse, there is no way to know the drop rates in game. This kills the fun : I found myself in need of mutagen samples a few weeks ago and started farming on Eris to enjoy the nice maps and music, and then realized the drop rates were abysmal. I never went there again, sadly. About their utility, we agree that you don't really need to farm mutagen samples. But still it seems weird. 1) Derelict requires keys and not everyone knows about the place, it took me good while to even know it existed. 2) You still need to farm them if you don't play a lot of ODD/ODS for clan research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) The problem of farming mutagen samples in ODD is that I have to recruit and requires a key to do so Why can't I farm it easily with random matches on Eris? === I just mixed it up with the dragon keys, but this is not affecting my point Edited October 11, 2014 by akira_him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeloxale Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 The problem of farming mutagen samples in ODD is that I have to recruit and requires a key to do so(actually the key wasn't a problem with excavation) Why can't I farm it easily with random matches on Eris? You can, it just takes longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 You can, it just takes longer. yea, almost 10 times longer seems legit to you what is the reason of punishing people not going to derelict when the devs are not making money on selling mutagen sample for platiums in the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 yea, almost 10 times longer seems legit to you 10 times longer to go to derelict? The key takes like a minute to craft, and finding a group is pitifully easy. Different resources drop in different places. Not everything drops everywhere. Though I would support resources being faction/unit specific rather than region specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) 10 times longer to go to derelict? The key takes like a minute to craft, and finding a group is pitifully easy. Different resources drop in different places. Not everything drops everywhere. Though I would support resources being faction/unit specific rather than region specific. what I mean "10 times longer" is that going to Eris farming for samples takes much more time than going to derelict I am sorry I didn't make this clear. Despite the fact the same resources have different drop rates in different maps, they are always the same in terms of "rarity" in different maps (orokin cells are always "rare", polymer bundles are always "common" for example) It is odd that mutagen sample does not share the same characteristics (what Lluid at #9 called "inconsistent", mutagen sample is "rare" on Eris but "uncommon" in derelict) I did talked about the idea of resources being faction/unit specific in a post at the time when all mutagen were removed form normal maps, but the thread disappeared. I think that was the first post that I have in this forum. Edited October 11, 2014 by akira_him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokkania Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 They said it will return as a RARE Drop on Eris. It is rare and your results reflect this. I see no problem here. others rare ressources drop more often than mutagen from Eris, neurodes, neural sensors, orokin cells on their respective planets, same for the others rare ressources, I personnaly find it odd that mutagen sample only get this rarity level, even more odd considering ODs things, why even put mutagen on Eris if they are as rare as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadToRise Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I farm mutagen samples at ODD. But as same as you, I've never gotten Mutagen samples unless i am really lucky, but im not really a Mutagen-mass material'd weapon except for i'm building the dual ichors right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomclaaw Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 You don't need a group for derelict captures or exterminates, just go make a dozen or so keys and knock them out. I do agree though the Eris drop rate is ridiculously low. Why even have it there at all if it never drops? Should just remove it again and keep it in derelicts. I'm in the same boat though, went to Eris to farm a while because I enjoy the missions there, and never got a single one after 2 weeks of farming on my nekros. Went to derelict tonight and did about 10 or so runs, got all the samples I needed to wrap up my research. It sucks because Eris is such a cool planet to play on. Way more interesting than the other recycled ones imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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