Saint_Tan Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I recall the good old days when the laser gates actually functioned as intended – preventing Tenno intruders from entering or exiting an area. And I must say, I/we felt Uber Ninja-esque doing a cool floor slide to slip through the enemy defenses as if they weren’t even there. A true Ninja trick indeed! (Once in awhile the slide wouldn’t work though - there was reward and punishment for your ability/inability to time your slide.) But as of several updates ago, the laser gates just became little more than a speed bump. You hit them, and you still push through to the other side. Um, what? The contractor who installed all those lasers for the Corpus should really return the greedy milk, but I digress… Fluff wise, it make ZERO sense for the gates to ‘push you through’ versus bouncing you back from which way you came. Play wise, it is almost certainly easier/faster (especially if I have a hoard of baddies on my tail) to just run into the gate and take the small grief of being knocked down (on the other side) versus stopping, trying to find the sensor, accurately aim at it, shoot it, then continue through the passage. Maybe some players had difficulty sliding through the gates, but what’s next? Making solid walls allow passage just because players can’t properly navigate the map? Returning to the previous laser gates will add a nice touch or realism as well as that mild fear that can brew just as you start your slide: Will the Ninja Slide Gods allow me one more safe passage through…? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I agree but more often than not I get annoyed at stupid Rhino alerting 50 cameras in the area as he passes through with Iron Skin -.-" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout751 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I agree. Make it so that either taking out the camera watching you or going through the gate a slide / roll gets you through safely. Maybe reposition the lasers to make this method of getting through a little more obvious, so it becomes clearer that there's a space to slide through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 ....... ....... You realize you can just roll straight through them, unhindered, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I recall the good old days when the laser gates actually functioned as intended – preventing Tenno intruders from entering or exiting an area. And I must say, I/we felt Uber Ninja-esque doing a cool floor slide to slip through the enemy defenses as if they weren’t even there. A true Ninja trick indeed! (Once in awhile the slide wouldn’t work though - there was reward and punishment for your ability/inability to time your slide.) But as of several updates ago, the laser gates just became little more than a speed bump. You hit them, and you still push through to the other side. Um, what? The contractor who installed all those lasers for the Corpus should really return the greedy milk, but I digress… Fluff wise, it make ZERO sense for the gates to ‘push you through’ versus bouncing you back from which way you came. Play wise, it is almost certainly easier/faster (especially if I have a hoard of baddies on my tail) to just run into the gate and take the small grief of being knocked down (on the other side) versus stopping, trying to find the sensor, accurately aim at it, shoot it, then continue through the passage. Maybe some players had difficulty sliding through the gates, but what’s next? Making solid walls allow passage just because players can’t properly navigate the map? Returning to the previous laser gates will add a nice touch or realism as well as that mild fear that can brew just as you start your slide: Will the Ninja Slide Gods allow me one more safe passage through…? I agree. Don't punish ninjas for being such. This was also really cool to with Loki. But doesn't function like it used to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 While always going through is too easy, always falling back was crippling to new players, and made the game almost unfair. (I was a noob around the time they changed them) This is one situation where RNG would probably benefit, if the laser-gates kicked you out in a random direction. That would still allow passage after one or more attempts, but actively punish those who rely on tanking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 ....... ....... You realize you can just roll straight through them, unhindered, right? You take shield damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 You can just roll through them anyway so they still aren't really even much of a speed bump. Suprisingly I'm learning this fact is not common knowledge. Remember when they used to insta kill you? Those where the days. I agree they shouldn't push you through to the otherside though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) You take shield damage You're lucky if you take even 10 points of dmg to your shields. The dmg is negligible so its not really a deterrent or even worth worrying about. Edited October 13, 2014 by StinkyPygmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) You take shield damage Still unhindered. It does not cause you to lose all your momentum like any alternative. It's much more effective than rolling through the Grineer equivalent. I'll say that much. Besides, the shield damage is so minute there is no point even bringing it up unless you were just making a jab at the fact that I said unhindered. Edited October 13, 2014 by Kestral9999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 You're lucky if you take even 10 points of dmg to your shields. The dmg is negligible so its not really a deterrent or even worth worrying about. That's not the OP's point of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Maybe some players had difficulty sliding through the gates, but what’s next? Making solid walls allow passage just because players can’t properly navigate the map? This is the kind of logic that I despise. The whole "what's next? A drastically blown out of proportion version of what was previously stated" thing has gotten very old. That's not the OP's point of the thread. And on that note, yeah, I'd like it if laser doors returned to their former glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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